Thread: Guess I'm a DILD man lmao

That's great that you're having LDs. You've had several now which is awesome. It's very common for the first several to be short. That happened to me too when I was starting out. They have started to last a little longer now which I'm happy about.

What all are you doing to have DILDs, or what is your method? Do you go to sleep with the intention, WBTB, etc?

This post seems strangely familiar, did you post that on reddit before?

Originally Posted by Lokoloi

As I was waiting for my cousin to get to me in my dream, I fell asleep. In this second dream layer, I was lucid. [...] but the dream faded and sent me back to the previous layer. I should have done another reality check to catch that...

It wasn't really a false awakening, but I just lost lucidity and got sent back to the previous layer while in the same position! It felt like the two layers were different dimensions and I hopped from the second layer into the first without moving, except the second layer just kinda.... dissolved around me. It is difficult to articulate.

Something similar happened to me once, I went to bed in a vivid but non-lucid dream and got directly into another dream where I was instantly lucid. No false awakening though, it involved flying over a city with some weird equipment. But it didn't last long and I 'woke up' into the previous layer again. Even the long, detailed story from before continued, so the thought of being in a dream never crossed my mind.

It is indeed a common occurence for me these days to fall asleep in a dream as I have many false awakenings. I'll go lucid from there, but normally I don't come back to the previous dream. Instead I'll end up in another FA which I recognize or not. As you said, always RC on waking up...
I've also WILDed in a dream before which was - of course - far easier than normally

Originally Posted by Lokoloi

Also, for whatever reason, False Awakenings and Dream Layering are becoming more frequent for me. I haven't really changed any of my habits, though.

That sounds like a sign of increased awareness, which can be sparked by many factors. Maybe just expecting false awakenings is enough for you. In my experience meditation helped a lot here.

Anyway, congrats to your success! Keep it up, there's more to come

Thank you for your words of encouragement!

Yes, I did post this to the Lucid Dreaming Subreddit. I was asking for tips but got no comments on my post so I took to this site hoping for great responses like yours!

I think it's quite interesting how literally anything can happen in a dream yet people share experiences; even ones as nuanced and as difficult to put into words as these. At first you'd think the odds are infinitesimally small, but then again, everyone's brain is from the same template i guess...

Aside from that, I plan to do another attempt tonight. I got a funny idea for achieving omnilucidity, so if it works, I'll post it everywhere I can cause it's just funny but also useful.

I don't think omnilucidity has reached the sub either so it probably will blow their minds lmao

Supplements / Prep: Meditation, Prospective Memory Training, Binaural Beats. (I also plan to make custom affirmations with my custom MILD Mantra)
Techniques: WBTB, MILD (Combined only on weekends cause I'm still in school)
Plan: Get into a dream, become lucid, go to my lucid dream workshop, access my dream console (Supercomputer AI that acts as a physical representation of my subconscious) give the voice command "Activate Self Sustaining Lucidity". This will give me a burst of lucidity at the beginning of every dream. I confirm it and it will work as long as I believe it to work and since expectation is everything in LDs, it will work.

TL;DR
I'm essentially walking up to my subconscious while lucid like "Yo can you make me lucid all the time"
and my subconscious is like "I got you bro" but I did it the way I did it for immersion and immersion is good for stabilization and it makes the situation unique to me.

Originally Posted by Lokoloi

I think it's quite interesting how literally anything can happen in a dream yet people share experiences; even ones as nuanced and as difficult to put into words as these. At first you'd think the odds are infinitesimally small, but then again, everyone's brain is from the same template i guess...

Yes, you're probably right. I think we're all far more similar rather than different, at least more than our egos want us to believe

Originally Posted by Lokoloi

Plan: Get into a dream, become lucid, go to my lucid dream workshop, access my dream console (Supercomputer AI that acts as a physical representation of my subconscious) give the voice command "Activate Self Sustaining Lucidity". This will give me a burst of lucidity at the beginning of every dream. I confirm it and it will work as long as I believe it to work and since expectation is everything in LDs, it will work.

That's an intriguing idea you've got here. I hope you'll get it done and report back if it works or what happens afterwards. As long as you believe it to work there should be a fair chance of it having an impact on your lucidity.
There will be people who have tried similar things though. Some time ago I read a story of someone trying something like this on psychedelics. It wasn't related to lucid dreaming but he too visualized his subconscious and reprogrammed it to his liking. Afaik he was successful to some degree.
Indeed I also tried to tell my subconscious to make me lucid automatically only a few weeks ago, while in hypnosis. It didn't really work, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't deep enough and/or didn't find the right symbolism. On the other hand I experience more spontaneous lucids than before; last week I went lucid almost every night but most times I woke up immediately so I don't count those...

Originally Posted by CarpeNoctem144

last week I went lucid almost every night but most times I woke up immediately so I don't count those...

Yeah that happened with 9 of the current 10 lds I've had. I call those fragments. I was still lucid even if only for a duration too fast for me to react to. (I'm new to quoting so if this doesn't come out right that's why)

I will definitely make sure to post my findings, although, due to the very nature of my plan, I won't know it's worked until the night after.
I believe that it will work though because I've found that the more immersed you are, the more likely you are to believe something. For example, the entire concept of "Suspension of Disbelief" in games. If you have good worldbuilding that immerses someone in the world, they are more likely to believe things that happen within the world. It's a similar effect here. Sure, I could just walk up to my subconscious in a dream like "Give me lucidity" but that's not really immersive to me.

Being in a facility of my own design while interfacing with my subconscious as the most powerful AI in the world would definitely help with immersion.

*As a fun little sidenote on my Dream Research Lab, I plan to have different rooms where different activities are done. The one I'm most excited for is the Menagerie. I love creating concepts for alien life and character design in general, so this will be a physical manifestation of all of my character designs. It will be the SCP part of my facility in a way.

I love Lucid Dreaming Workshops.*

Anyway, no success last night but I'll keep you posted on results!