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      I Drink Universe Juice Adanac's Avatar
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      How can we compare something that humans create, to the universe?
      Things that humans create are in the universe. We know nothing more complex, or less complex then the universe. (By universe I mean everything that exists.) To say that the universe is complex, is flawed. We have no perspective on this. I tried to come up with a simple analogy, but I couldn't. Sort of like describing colour to a person blind from birth, but not quite.
      Therefore, if it is flawed to say that the universe is complex, then it is also flawed to say that the universe was created by intelligent design because it is complex.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Adanac View Post
      How can we compare something that humans create, to the universe?
      Things that humans create are in the universe. We know nothing more complex, or less complex then the universe. (By universe I mean everything that exists.) To say that the universe is complex, is flawed. We have no perspective on this. I tried to come up with a simple analogy, but I couldn't. Sort of like describing colour to a person blind from birth, but not quite.
      Therefore, if it is flawed to say that the universe is complex, then it is also flawed to say that the universe was created by intelligent design because it is complex.[/b]
      the idea that the universe is complex isnt only held by theists. there are plenty of atheist scientists who find the universe so complex they are marveled by it.

      the universe is complex becuase we say it is. we give descriptions to things and we decide. who says the universe is big? compared to what? a house? why do we compare it to us, because that is what humans do.

      the universe is big and complex.

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