the word of Jesus speaking through those with Christ consciousness, if you believe. this thread is mostly aimed at christians, but of course anyone is welcome to hear. just thought I stir up the forum with some radical quotes, that will no doubt be called HERESAY, did I spell that right?
with much love!! your man, Jesus!
"I fully understand why so many people reject me. I fully understand why so many people have given up on all religion because of their disappointment with orthodox Christianity. I fully understand why so many spiritual seekers and New Age people have given up on Christianity and reject anything related to Christianity. However, these people are throwing their own Christ children out with the dirty bath water of human power struggles. Regardless of how I have been portrayed by orthodox Christianity, the fact is that I am a universal spiritual teacher, and I have much to offer to the spiritual seekers of today."
about the second coming
"I am aware that millions of sincere and devout Christians are looking forward to an event that they describe as the second coming of Christ. There are many different theories and beliefs about this second coming and what it might be like. However, most of them describe an event in which I will appear “in the flesh” and remove all darkness and imperfections from this planet. I will appear as the king, and I will bring God’s kingdom to earth.
I am Jesus Christ, and I must tell you the truth about this matter.
I very much desire to see the second coming of Christ as a physical reality on this planet. I very much desire to see my Father’s kingdom manifest on earth. However, I must tell you frankly that the event envisioned by most Christians simply will not come to pass. Allow me to explain why."
" Let me now explain the inner reason why the second coming of Christ will not be as envisioned by many Christians.
It is the deepest desire of both God and myself to see you and all other human beings walk the path of personal Christhood and eventually put on the fullness of that Christhood. God wants all of his sons and daughters to come home and join the wedding feast in his kingdom. However, you can come home only by putting on the wedding garment of personal Christhood.
The point I am making here is that if I were to appear on earth in some sort of physical manifestation, that appearance would actually make it more difficult for people to put on their personal Christhood. You might remember that I warned people about false appearances related to my second coming. I told you that if people say that the Christ has appeared here or there, you should not go there. Why did I make that statement? Because as long as you think the Christ is appearing somewhere outside of you, you cannot accept that the Christ is appearing inside of you."
"In other words, the second coming of Christ is an event whereby the Christ appears in you. "
" If no one dares to put on their personal Christhood, then my mission has failed. I did not come to earth to turn people into good Christians. I came to earth to see people manifest the fullness of personal Christhood and to walk the earth in that Christhood. I do not want my followers to be simply good Christians. I want my followers to be Christs."
About the Catholic Church
" People who belong to a particular religion are quick to see certain faults in the followers of other religions. Yet the relativity of the lower mind causes such people to believe that because they belong to the only true church, they are somehow above and beyond the faults they see in others. This applies to both members and leaders of the Catholic Church, and for that matter to members and leaders of every other organized religion. "
" The Catholic Church makes the claim that a doctrine is infallible because the Church claims that the doctrine came directly from God. If it came from God, then it should be correct. Medieval Catholics did not know that the Earth was round but surely God did. So the only logical conclusion is that the church doctrine about the Earth being flat could not have come from God. Most Catholics fail to accept the logical conclusion. If it is proven that at least two doctrines were not infallible, and therefore could not have come from God, then how many other church doctrines did not come from God? "
"How is it possible that human beings can fail to see that I, Jesus Christ, never wanted to create a Christian church that oppressed people in the same way that the Jewish religion oppressed people.
Don’t people see that I was in constant opposition to the leaders of the Jewish religion? Don’t they understand that I denounced those leaders because they had set themselves up as the only link between the people and their God? Don’t they understand that the essence of my message was that you do not need any outer, or human, authority in order to reach God? You can reach God directly in your heart by doing what Saint Paul said, “Let that mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus.”
How can anyone fail to see this? How can anyone fail to accept the only possible conclusion, namely that the Catholic Church has not always been in alignment with the true teachings and the true intent of Jesus Christ. When you see that the Catholic Church is out of alignment with the true intent of Christ, isn’t it obvious that people need to make a sincere effort to bring the Church back in alignment with the teachings of Christ?"
" I hope you can sense that I am very passionate about these things. I feel a strong passion for helping people see beyond the lower mind and see what needs to happen, not only to the Catholic Church but to every religion on Earth."
someone asked if there is a false God, the short answer is simply ask!
" Consider the importance of the question of whether there is a false god. Let us imagine for a minute that there was a false god and that some people on Earth had been fooled into worshiping that false god. If these people considered it blasphemy to even ask whether there might be a false god, then how could they possibly be freed from that trap? They would literally be stuck for a lifetime and their culture could be stuck for thousands of years.
The basic law of this universe is free will. We of the Ascended Host have been given the task of saving every human being on Earth. To save people, we must liberate them from the serpentine lies by giving them the truth that will make them free. However, in order to give people the truth, people must ask. Ask and ye shall receive is a divine law. If you do not ask, you cannot receive from us because the Law of Free Will does not permit us to give you an answer for which you have not asked. In fact, until you ask, you would not be open to the answer of able to fathom that answer."
"I would like to settle the age-old question about the chicken and the egg once and for all. The chicken came first." lol!! ^o^
Is God also the feminine as God is masucline? (please not masculine and feminine are not the same as male and female)
" As I explain, God the creator is the acting, or masculine, principle, whereas the Light of God is the receiving, or feminine, principle. So everything in the world of form is created out of the feminine aspect of God. That is why some religions say that everything was created from the Mother God or the Goddess, and that is why some religions worship God as a feminine deity.
The masculine and feminine aspects of God have always existed. Therefore, in a sense it is meaningless to talk about whether God was masculine before feminine or the other way around. These two principles, or aspects, are inseparable and it really doesn't make sense to talk about one without the other."
someone now asks if God can make a burrito so hot, that God himself can not eat it, I know there was a parrallel debate here!!
"One of the most common misconceptions about God is the idea that God is perfect, and therefore he could never change. God is indeed perfect, but perfection does not mean something that stands still. In reality, God is ever-changing because God simply cannot stop creating. When God creates, he creates everything out of his own substance and so to create something new, God must transcend himself. To create something new, God must be willing to become more than he already is. Without him was not anything made that was made, so when something new is made, God must become more than he already is.
I know this explanation will seem like heresy to many religious people who have put God in a little box and who are not willing to allow God to change. Nevertheless, God is transcending himself every second, and that is why constant growth is the basic law of this universe. That is indeed why God wants his sons and daughters to constantly grow and transcend themselves and become more than what they were crated to be.
So to return to your question, the answer is that God can indeed create a burrito so hot that he could not eat it given who and what he is at the moment he created the burrito. Yet God also has the ability to transcend himself instantly so that he could now eat the burrito. At this new level, God could then create another burrito which he could not eat at that level. He could then transcend himself again and eat the burrito, create a new one and keep repeating the cycle forever and ever.
Although this might be entertaining for a time, God has chosen to create universes instead of burritos."
this is only a small snippet of it. anything else you would like to see? Creationism? Science? Did Jesus marry? what major debates that go on in this forum should I include? PS, there is NO POINT in debating these answers with me. These are not my words. I did however chop up entire written pages for conviency, I apologize. So let me know if something is confusing.
but please let me know if there are other answers to questions that you would like to see, whether you be christian or not. I am not asking you to believe either that these are the real words of Jesus. I'll let your SELF decide.
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