Thread: Gods Cannot Have Consciousness

Originally Posted by The Cusp

If you want to know what "God consciousness" is like, you can experience it in a lucid dream.

In one lucid, I realized that I was all the DCs, all the buildings, the ground the sky. My consciousness kept expanding to encompass more and more, until I got down to the molecular level. I was every molecule and atom, countless particles all just humming away.

A strange thing happened at that point. I lost all will to act or do anything. I couldn't even want to do anything, couldn't even think. All I could do was be aware, and no one thing was more important than the other. In fact, there was no separation, everything was one.

When you hear people say "How could a god allow terrible things to happen?", it's because he can't do anything other than be aware. It's just impossible. Try it yourself if you don't believe me, it's an interesting experience.

If god gave us free will, then he did so by limiting our consciousness so that we are not aware of everything. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to act. Would you really be able to wear Nike shoes if you were truly aware of the horrors of forced child labour? No way in hell! Our free will is born of ignorance.

If you've read Castaneda's books, they describe Don Genaro as being incapable of acting or wanting or desiring anything because he was trapped in the second attention. (he wasnt really trapped in that type of attention, it was just a trick the played on Castaneda to get the point across)

It's interesting how our experiences can also be much like the dreamworld. This sounds very real as the higher states have been described, but I wonder how much a dream can influence our awareness compared to the waking state? I also wonder if your experience you describe could occur if you were not lucid. :/

Originally Posted by O'nus

I think I can properly respond to all your points with this;

You only know of one type of consciousness.

You can and have only experienced one type of consciousness.

You cannot know or even could know of any other types of consciousness.

If there are other types of consciousness, they are not what we know of.

If there is a God, they would definitely not have a consciousness like ours.

What do you think...?

~

You know of many states of consciousness through experience.

You can experience one state of consciousness at a time.

You can know of other states of consciousness, and can grow or descend from others.

Consciousness is infinite in dimension.

God would have to be related to any state of consciousness. There is no exclusion if God encompasses and has Created all.

Pure consciousness can be said to be the closest state to God in the human domain.