Thread: Are you a Starseed, Psychic, or Insane?

I just read through both of those starseed lists. A very, very large number of the personality traits apply to me, as do many of the more random physical things like chronic sinusitis and discomfort in the back of the neck, and even things like having had prophetic dreams that came true, astral dreams and dreams of flying coming naturally, being obsessed with alien and astral fantasies, etc., etc., and I'm still very skeptical of this. I honestly can't say that I think it sounds like anything more than piecing together a lot of random data until you find enough patterns to make it look like a group of people actually has a lot in common. In addition, many of the traits listed are extremely common and will apply to a very large number of the people you ask as it is. I'm always open to hear other points of view, but I currently find it very hard to believe anything about starseeds.

As for your last question, I think it's far too general. It sort of implies (at least, this is what I got out of it) that people either have to be starseeds or psychics when they "know" these things, or they have to be insane. I think excluding either is taking things too far, personally. Like, believing that many schizophrenics are actually picking up on vibrations and the like is fine and all, but saying that everyone who society deems "crazy" is actually getting extrasensory perceptions is just ridiculous. Some people's brains just don't work "normally", and that doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with aliens or psychic powers, even if you believe it can for some people.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

I'm not going to presume people are just insane because I can't understand them. I know a lot of people who claim to be psychic and don't appear to have any serious screws loose. I'm not very psychic, myself, but I'm much more psychic than I used to be. In fact I've found it to be a rather easy skill to acquire if you're willing to do the work. It's easier to me than learning to play an instrument or learning a new language, at least.

The list doesn't strike me as anything particularly of note. In fact I'd say if there are starseeds then many of the characteristics listed are wrong.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

I just read through both of those starseed lists. A very, very large number of the personality traits apply to me, as do many of the more random physical things like chronic sinusitis and discomfort in the back of the neck, and even things like having had prophetic dreams that came true, astral dreams and dreams of flying coming naturally, being obsessed with alien and astral fantasies, etc., etc., and I'm still very skeptical of this. I honestly can't say that I think it sounds like anything more than piecing together a lot of random data until you find enough patterns to make it look like a group of people actually has a lot in common. In addition, many of the traits listed are extremely common and will apply to a very large number of the people you ask as it is. I'm always open to hear other points of view, but I currently find it very hard to believe anything about starseeds.

As for your last question, I think it's far too general. It sort of implies (at least, this is what I got out of it) that people either have to be starseeds or psychics when they "know" these things, or they have to be insane. I think excluding either is taking things too far, personally. Like, believing that many schizophrenics are actually picking up on vibrations and the like is fine and all, but saying that everyone who society deems "crazy" is actually getting extrasensory perceptions is just ridiculous. Some people's brains just don't work "normally", and that doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with aliens or psychic powers, even if you believe it can for some people.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

Yeah, I see how the list is too general and cannot be applied to many people.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Alyzarin.

I think my whole idea for posting this was that I had experienced psychic phenomena myself shortly after being diagnosed with a mental disorder at age 11 after a family tragedy.

So another part of the question would be if you have been diagnosed with a disorder do you still consider yourself psychic? As for being a starseed, I wouldn't say that it is necessary someone would want to become accustomed to saying that they are one but it is an idea for those who are looking for answers.

I have been through some really freaky crap in the past and so I'm really just questioning people's ability and what they consider it to be to see if I can relate to it.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

I'm not going to presume people are just insane because I can't understand them. I know a lot of people who claim to be psychic and don't appear to have any serious screws loose. I'm not very psychic, myself, but I'm much more psychic than I used to be. In fact I've found it to be a rather easy skill to acquire if you're willing to do the work. It's easier to me than learning to play an instrument or learning a new language, at least.

The list doesn't strike me as anything particularly of note. In fact I'd say if there are starseeds then many of the characteristics listed are wrong.

Yeah, I hear you. Most of it is just an idea for when someone is curios about thoughts/feelings/body etc.

But, then again, I have had a lot of experiences in the past that makes me question my own existance.

Originally Posted by LifeDreamer

Yeah, I see how the list is too general and cannot be applied to many people.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Alyzarin.

I think my whole idea for posting this was that I had experienced psychic phenomena myself shortly after being diagnosed with a mental disorder at age 11 after a family tragedy.

So another part of the question would be if you have been diagnosed with a disorder do you still consider yourself psychic? As for being a starseed, I wouldn't say that it is necessary someone would want to become accustomed to saying that they are one but it is an idea for those who are looking for answers.

I have been through some really freaky crap in the past and so I'm really just questioning people's ability and what they consider it to be to see if I can relate to it.

Sure thing.

Well, when it comes to deciding whether someone (or yourself) really has some special attribute or just a mental disorder, it's a bit harder to say unfortunately.... One of the sites you linked does a good job of explaining it. “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don’t believe, no proof is possible.” Translation: This is a matter of faith. There is no solid proof to be shown in either direction, all you have to go on is your intuition.

It sounds like a sucky situation to be in when it comes to deciding your own state of mind, but it's really not any different from what everyone has to go through, "mental disorder" or not. You only see the world from one point of view, and you can't even trust that one. What's real and what isn't is entirely up to you.

I have a really hard time believing 90% of starseeds avoid the drug scene. I can understand avoiding uppers and downers, but it seems to me they would be drawn to psychedelics for the spiritual value of the drugs.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Sure thing.

Well, when it comes to deciding whether someone (or yourself) really has some special attribute or just a mental disorder, it's a bit harder to say unfortunately.... One of the sites you linked does a good job of explaining it. “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don’t believe, no proof is possible.” Translation: This is a matter of faith. There is no solid proof to be shown in either direction, all you have to go on is your intuition.

It sounds like a sucky situation to be in when it comes to deciding your own state of mind, but it's really not any different from what everyone has to go through, "mental disorder" or not. You only see the world from one point of view, and you can't even trust that one. What's real and what isn't is entirely up to you.

For what you said last; To say that my whole situation is not any different from what other people go through is very narrow but it could be that maybe you just don't get that I'm just bringing up an idea? I mean it is really hard to be open about these things and alone have people be open-minded abou the same things that aren't really proven to be true because 'it really is all in our heads' but thats just what its like for me and people who have had similar accounts aside from illness, its just what it is.

and indeed...what I believe in is entirely up to me.

But, I do get what your saying and I understand. After all this is just a discussion right?

I think it's interesting how much people love to label each other as flawed in some way because their thought processes work differently. I'd consider it a result of our clockwork interpretation of reality. If something doesn't function exactly how it's "supposed" to, it's broken. But mutation drives evolution, and not just genetic mutation. One man's mutant is another's innovator. I don't buy much about starseeds but I will say that just because there's a link between psychic ability and mental "disorder," that hardly refutes the possibility of psychic powers. The arrogance it takes to end one's curiosity about reality at the materialist model is almost as astounding as believing in the book of mormon.

Well, I'd like to believe I am a "starseed", because I apply to all of the key traits of a starseed. It's really kind of interesting, but I doubt that any earth-born human could actually fully know what a starseed is. ...or maybe I'm just not making any sense either...

I dont get it

When I first heard the term "starseed" it was used in the same manner as the term "higher self". It was simply a fun word to say to recognize that your spirit doesn't originate from earth and that your human legacy is really the stuff of stars. It wasn't meant to divide people with saying this persons a starseed or that persons a starseed. In this understanding, everyone is a starseed. Were all spirits seeded on earth. But whatever, some people really just want to use new age to place their self on a pedestal and claim they're different.

And yes Im insane, I think the characters in my head are real

I just like to believe in the beyond. I'm not trying to pressure anyone to believe in anything that can't be proven to be real or trying to make someone believe in something they simply just don't want to believe. I think its kind of funny we think one idea means just what is stated and put into words. Its hard to tell what words can say when language is a huge barrier in the world we live in, which is physical. We try to rationalize ideas and the madness of fate or just the agony of living in a history written in blood. Lets face it, we want to express ourselves as people. We don't want to fall too far down the rabbit hole because we don't know what awaits.

I certainly don't know why people want to be superior or taller than others especially since history shows it to be very destructive, even today. I do know through my belief that we have an ego, we don't want our ego to be hurt by others even if it seems to be just the smallest thing that can't be taken personal by someone else. We all want something but we all don't all value the same thing because we all live in separate worlds.

I think that we like to think 'words' mean the same thing for each other, or maybe we just learn a little more different from when we first heard a term.

I'm not really asking the question I posted but rather putting out there that there is more to what we think then what can be understood from it. Sorry to confuse everyone by separating these terms like they all mean the same thing non-intentionally

I'm asking: Do you know or believe that there are things that just aren't part of what we learned in school, hear people discussing about in our everyday lives, and acknowledge from or social systems? And if so what have you experienced that makes you see this otherside to the small world we live in?

Originally Posted by juroara

I dont get it

When I first heard the term "starseed" it was used in the same manner as the term "higher self". It was simply a fun word to say to recognize that your spirit doesn't originate from earth and that your human legacy is really the stuff of stars. It wasn't meant to divide people with saying this persons a starseed or that persons a starseed. In this understanding, everyone is a starseed. Were all spirits seeded on earth. But whatever, some people really just want to use new age to place their self on a pedestal and claim they're different.

And yes Im insane, I think the characters in my head are real

Yeah, the whole thing is not a new concept, but more recently people have just been using the term "starseed" instead of the more specific "indigo children" or "crystal children". Presumably this is due to the negative connotations that come from society when previously discussing indigo children etc, or perhaps b/c most of the supposed "indigo" generation are no longer children. But it's all the same thing. To me those lists of starseed traits are completely meaningless, they seem so random, overly general, and contrived that I have to wonder who put them together and how they became the authority on what a starseed should be like. Do most of them apply to me? Without a doubt. But I have no reason to think that my neighbor who isn't a starseed wouldn't feel the same. I mean, why would having red or blonde hair increase the odds that someone is a starseed? Why would a starseed not use drugs? A lot of it just makes no sense, and seems like it was thrown together by someone with no idea what they were talking about, and just wanted to reach a general population who could relate and would mistake such information as authoritative.

"[Starseeds] have bloodlines from ancient days which connect them to visitors from the stars."

This part doesn't make any sense to me. Throughout history, the human population has bottlenecked, meaning most of the current population can trace their ancestors back to a very small portion of the earlier population. So, if a bloodline comes from very "ancient" people, I would expect it to be a common trait, not rare. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding genetics, though.

I also have an issue with #37 "Having a deep desire to form a union with one person of the opposite sex for life. Even having this urge as a child." Gay people can't br starseeds? The focus on pale skin and red or blonde hair seems ethnocentric to me as well.

But, I do like Juroara's definition of starseed.

Originally Posted by LifeDreamer

Are you a Starseed, Psychic, or Insane?

Nope.

Originally Posted by hermine_hesse

"[Starseeds] have bloodlines from ancient days which connect them to visitors from the stars."

This part doesn't make any sense to me. Throughout history, the human population has bottlenecked, meaning most of the current population can trace their ancestors back to a very small portion of the earlier population. So, if a bloodline comes from very "ancient" people, I would expect it to be a common trait, not rare. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding genetics, though.

I also have an issue with #37 "Having a deep desire to form a union with one person of the opposite sex for life. Even having this urge as a child." Gay people can't br starseeds? The focus on pale skin and red or blonde hair seems ethnocentric to me as well.

But, I do like Juroara's definition of starseed.

I definitely have to wonder about that stuff. I decided to give the author a chance and read bloodlines as something related to reincarnation. But there definitely appear to be many holes in the theory laid out by the author, and more importantly, many screws loose in the author him/herself.

If there's such thing as a starseed, I'd definitely qualify, but I think I simply have the type of personality that desires to be included in something greater and more significant. While I'm not denying that reincarnation may be more interesting than we presume, and that in fact there may be some sort of ability to reincarnate on different planets which also appear to some degree or another from our perspective. I'm also willing to believe that life may exist in other density levels and most planets appear dead because of some issue related to density issues. I am willing to give these ideas my attention, but I am concerned that most "authorities" on these subjects are spreading nonsense theories heard elsewhere but never fully understood. Rumors are poison to an idea, and people should not teach what they've heard until they undergo proper self-verification, at least in cases like this.

Sounds like the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey.... the 'evolved' baby floating through space.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

I definitely have to wonder about that stuff. I decided to give the author a chance and read bloodlines as something related to reincarnation. But there definitely appear to be many holes in the theory laid out by the author, and more importantly, many screws loose in the author him/herself.

If there's such thing as a starseed, I'd definitely qualify, but I think I simply have the type of personality that desires to be included in something greater and more significant. While I'm not denying that reincarnation may be more interesting than we presume, and that in fact there may be some sort of ability to reincarnate on different planets which also appear to some degree or another from our perspective. I'm also willing to believe that life may exist in other density levels and most planets appear dead because of some issue related to density issues. I am willing to give these ideas my attention, but I am concerned that most "authorities" on these subjects are spreading nonsense theories heard elsewhere but never fully understood. Rumors are poison to an idea, and people should not teach what they've heard until they undergo proper self-verification, at least in cases like this.

Yes, if we do reincarnate and there is life on other planets, I see no reason why some people would reincarnate to other planets and vice versa. I'm also open to this idea, and I think this is actually more interesting than what the original article was implying. I think reincarnation to other planets would be rare; as we reincarnate we would be more likely to be drawn back to the planet and life forms we already know. However, having lived a past life on another planet wouldn't necessarily make you more spirituality advanced, but I suppose it would certainly give you an interesting viewpoint.

I also wanted to comment on "otherkin" that LifeDreamer mentioned in the first post. Otherkin isn't quite the same thing as starseed. Otherkin believe that their spirit is something other than human. This other spirit could be a large variety of things - demon, fairy, dragon, vampire, etc. In this sense, starseed could actually fall under a more narrow definition of otherkin.

"90% of starseeds have never tried the 'drug scene'" - Ah well.

Though: "Extreme sensitivity or extreme tolerance to alcohol, medicines, drugs."

You do know that everything we are is from remnants of past stars? Look at heavy metals on Earth for instance, the only way it could be here is from a supernova. There isn't a doubt in my mind that we are all made up of deceased stars. Hell, they've found amino acids on meteorites and comets before. We're all E.T. in my opinion.

Originally Posted by hermine_hesse

Yes, if we do reincarnate and there is life on other planets, I see no reason why some people would reincarnate to other planets and vice versa. I'm also open to this idea, and I think this is actually more interesting than what the original article was implying. I think reincarnation to other planets would be rare; as we reincarnate we would be more likely to be drawn back to the planet and life forms we already know. However, having lived a past life on another planet wouldn't necessarily make you more spirituality advanced, but I suppose it would certainly give you an interesting viewpoint.

I also wanted to comment on "otherkin" that LifeDreamer mentioned in the first post. Otherkin isn't quite the same thing as starseed. Otherkin believe that their spirit is something other than human. This other spirit could be a large variety of things - demon, fairy, dragon, vampire, etc. In this sense, starseed could actually fall under a more narrow definition of otherkin.

Again though, some of your presumptions are baseless. We assume, with reincarnation, some amount of karma is involved that we need to unwind, therefore we reincarnate with the same people over and over again.

This may not be true. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying to properly analyze this idea you have to let go of presumptions about what reincarnation is or how it works.

Another assumption is that "heaven" or whatever is like some transcendental realm. If there are multiple kingdoms of heaven, as many religions agree, then perhaps their location is represented by various planets, perhaps location is something far different from how we see it.

It's also possible that otherkin and starseeds are the same thing, I think it's important not to narrow the possibilities without worthy justification. Many of the research I've seen on DMT claims that the Elves some people see and the Aliens other people see are the same thing.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

Again though, some of your presumptions are baseless. We assume, with reincarnation, some amount of karma is involved that we need to unwind, therefore we reincarnate with the same people over and over again.

This may not be true. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying to properly analyze this idea you have to let go of presumptions about what reincarnation is or how it works.

Another assumption is that "heaven" or whatever is like some transcendental realm. If there are multiple kingdoms of heaven, as many religions agree, then perhaps their location is represented by various planets, perhaps location is something far different from how we see it.

It's also possible that otherkin and starseeds are the same thing, I think it's important not to narrow the possibilities without worthy justification. Many of the research I've seen on DMT claims that the Elves some people see and the Aliens other people see are the same thing.

I think you are keen into knowing that a large part of our history has a basis of assumption that there is transcending levels to our own reality or just God (I mean, we did have a huge historical happening of people segregating themselves from church and finding new religion and belief) This basis has been seen in research done in Near-death experiences where people have seen aspects from our own reality and unworldly. There is this site that goes into explaining the experiences and gives research on the after-life. Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife there are all kinds of different sub-categories into experiences that deal with heaven, hell and other things as well. I mentioned this site and the idea of Near-death being part of this discussion because I think it is important to look at experiences people have gone through after being clinically dead to see that there is another side to just what we know and see. I really haven't gone around a lot of this site but I have read some experiences by Edgar Cayce and other well-known people.

Apart from there being unreal aspects in reality, life, and what people have experienced after being clinically dead, I also think that personal background has a big role in how we look at ourselves and the world around us on numerous levels. This could mean that being from a certain religion, strict or not, we all experience these opinionated views we often discuss in some aspect of our life even if its not based on our religion or other things like sexuality. What I mean is that in some moment in our life we know how to tell something that is just simple and unjustified more explanatory, logical, and in-depth to what I listed about starseeds. I think that is why both the idea of starseed and list is too general. After all the words aren't defining anything based really anything besides fiction, but we all have personal ideas on things, even if its just on science fiction.

I've read quite a bit from that site and I have to say, as interesting as some of it is, it should be taken with a grain of salt. As much as I find some of the explanations to be more accurate than commonly held convictions by mainstream religious zealotry, there's a lot of information that falls apart upon closer inspection.

To me a much better source of information is the Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly Palmer Hall. In fact if you can pick up any book by Hall, it's sure to enlighten you. You can find Secret Teachings on websites such as the Sacred Texts Archive.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

I've read quite a bit from that site and I have to say, as interesting as some of it is, it should be taken with a grain of salt. As much as I find some of the explanations to be more accurate than commonly held convictions by mainstream religious zealotry, there's a lot of information that falls apart upon closer inspection.

To me a much better source of information is the Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly Palmer Hall. In fact if you can pick up any book by Hall, it's sure to enlighten you. You can find Secret Teachings on websites such as the Sacred Texts Archive.

Yeah, I know that its a lot on the religious side and I won't argue with that. I mean from what I've read it didn't exactly enlighten me or make me feel that great about dying or anything of the sort. A lot of it reminded me of when I was forced to go to church with certain people as a young child. The feeling of being forced into some extreme religious view just wasn't and isn't how I am as a child. Oh, and the messages they have on there about unconditional love or just love as a message from what these people have learned from their dying experiences makes me feel a bit annoyed. Why? I don't really know other than why would someone emphasize that when its obvious and self-taught.

I will check out that site right now and read the text by Palmer Hall. Thanks for sharing.

It's an immense book, I don't expect you to read it all straight through, but I find the information to be extremely interesting, It predates Cayce and the like, though.