Thread: Does marijuana help with lucid dreaming?

Originally Posted by Suplux

I don't know if I am just lucky or if you guys are unlucky but...

Firstly, I smoke marijuana just about every day and if anything, my lucid ability and dream recall have only been on a steady improvement. Now, I don't think it's a result of the marijuana, it's just that the marijuana hasn't been detrimental. I still recall about 2 dreams per night (up from 0 a few months ago). I don't keep dream journals or anything else.

Also, about making you lazy and unmotivated. This is a stereotype I just can't stand and I must say, again, I haven't found this to be the case. Personally, my grades have gone up and since I started smoking I have only received A's (in highschool). Also, I have seen no lack of motivation, in fact maybe just the opposite. I ENJOY cleaning my room, cleaning dishes, taking out the trash, etc...while high. I just don't seem to get lazy while high. Sure, it CAN be enjoyable to sit back with some music and chill out, but if you don't have the will power to get up and do what needs to be done (even while high), then you are pathetic and probably shouldn't be smoking anyways.

Anyways, I think that if you want to smoke weed, that is fine. In my opinion it really hasn't been detrimental (to lucid dreaming) and I think you can enjoy both!

i have to agree with you on this...there are alot of stereotypes about weed and in my experience it affects people in very different ways...some types do get lazy and stupid...but i have also know others who were quite brilliant people and smoked all day long....and accomplished a lot...for some it makes them relaxed and social, for others, paranoid and introverted...people are all unique....

I agree completely which is why I hate to see that stereotype thrown around so often.

Anyways, here is a list of the "10 most successful marijuana users". Of course, it doesn't really mean anything because as you said, everyone reacts differently, but it does show that marijuana does not always and unfailingly cause you to become a lazy, typical "pot head".

http://coedmagazine.com/2009/02/06/t...h-to-admit-it/

Originally Posted by Suplux

I agree completely which is why I hate to see that stereotype thrown around so often.

Anyways, here is a list of the "10 most successful marijuana users". Of course, it doesn't really mean anything because as you said, everyone reacts differently, but it does show that marijuana does not always and unfailingly cause you to become a lazy, typical "pot head".

http://coedmagazine.com/2009/02/06/t...h-to-admit-it/

thanx for the link....that was great....

Originally Posted by fy_iceworld

My opinion:

I'm 20 and I go to the Univ. of Chicago.
6 months ago I began experimenting (true sense of the word) with the ganja and finally ended after many painstaking attempts of trying to quit. Contrary to what you may hear, it is addicting as a mother fucker. In retrospect, marijuana will only make you more depressed and lazy, not allow you to recall a single dream, make your mind hazy, make you think disagreeable things...in a few words: it will fuck you up. Though, it does give a clear introspect into certain things (if you are intelligent enough to actually use Knowledge and contemplate meaningful things...unlike stupid skaters and stupidasses who smoke pot for 'the giggles' or whatever) However, if you do decide to try it, you'll soon enough see what I'm trying to say.

you've obviously never met a mature pothead who is smarter than normal when they're high. if it doesn't work right for you don't tell everyone else it's bad. it has a different affect on everyone and if you've never done it don't listen to someone else who doesn't like it and makes it look bad by saying it makes you negative and depressed when in fact if you don't depend on anything but yourself you are fine. I can recall many dreams while high on THC(marijuana) and i can also remember dreams i had from when i was very high after going to bed too. it boosts your creativity up a bunch and also if your calm keeps you in a happy, buzzing, comfertable mind. It's merely a herb grown from our planet that is higly misunderstood, some humans give nature a bad rep when all along nature is just trying to help you.

Yeah, marijuana (Though makes dreams more exciting/vivid) does destroy your memory in general and therfore your dream recall as well.

I found that smoking some after getting 5-6 hours sleep then going back to sleep is great for WILDS But most of the time smoking does nothing but destroy dream recall entirely (Unless you're a really good remember-er).

Marijuana simply enhances emotions and feelings. If you think depressed feelings when you're high, it'll feel like it's the marijuana making you particularly depressed, same with happiness, sadness, etc.

I've been smoking regularly for years now, and sure it does make you lazy sometimes but who gives a shit? There are times when even without pot all I want to do is sit on my ass - pot just makes that way more exciting.


People who say it does nothing but fuck you up and slow you down are simply too unintelligent to appreciate the actual benefits of getting stoned - which does nothing but enhance. I've felt like absolute shit after getting high before but that only happens when I feel like shit anyway. Pot's great to bring out the feelings you're trying to store away and cope with them because it makes them more obvious.

If you think happy thoughts whilst high, you'll be happy, same about anxiety etc. You can always control what thoughts you think, pot just makes them enhaned and seemly hard to deal with sometimes though it's very easy to cope once you learn exactly how it affects you as an individual.

Marijuana actually reduces the amount of dreams you have a lot....I read it in a book (cough cough)

Originally Posted by general-david

Marijuana actually reduces the amount of dreams you have a lot....I read it in a book (cough cough)

lol what book? I think it just annihilates dream recall, not the actual dreams themselves.

Originally Posted by fy_iceworld

My opinion:

I'm 20 and I go to the Univ. of Chicago.
6 months ago I began experimenting (true sense of the word) with the ganja and finally ended after many painstaking attempts of trying to quit. Contrary to what you may hear, it is addicting as a mother fucker. In retrospect, marijuana will only make you more depressed and lazy, not allow you to recall a single dream, make your mind hazy, make you think disagreeable things...in a few words: it will fuck you up. Though, it does give a clear introspect into certain things (if you are intelligent enough to actually use Knowledge and contemplate meaningful things...unlike stupid skaters and stupidasses who smoke pot for 'the giggles' or whatever) However, if you do decide to try it, you'll soon enough see what I'm trying to say.

That is exactly my experience with it.

In my experience, it does not help nor hinder. Though, for most people, it decreased their recall, I think because it affects short term memory. I rarely smoke now, but I think what it does, in addition to affecting short term memory negatively, is put you into a deeper sleep, where dreams are harder to remember.

As with any lucid aid, be they a drug or an electronic device such as music or lights, I think the goal should be to eventually not have to use it.

I'm 50 / 50 on this subject. I'm more of a social smoker but I truly do enjoy smoking cannabis after a long day of work. I'm a very successful entrepreneur so those of you who try to state cannabis makes people lazy and idiotic really pisses me off, just another stereotype from those unwilling to do any real research on the true effects and not the bullshit you were taught.

Anyways with that being said the night I had my first lucid dream I actually smoked an hour before bed so I'm not sure on how much it really does effect your chance of dream recall and obtaining lucidity. I've also had mixed results where i've smoked before bed and had 0 dream recall...

I honestly believe the mind is a very powerful tool that can steer you in either direction depending on what you strong believe so I suggest you all stay open minded and just simply see what works best for you.

Originally Posted by shooshtime

I'm 50 / 50 on this subject. I'm more of a social smoker but I truly do enjoy smoking cannabis after a long day of work. I'm a very successful entrepreneur so those of you who try to state cannabis makes people lazy and idiotic really pisses me off, just another stereotype from those unwilling to do any real research on the true effects and not the bullshit you were taught.

Anyways with that being said the night I had my first lucid dream I actually smoked an hour before bed so I'm not sure on how much it really does effect your chance of dream recall and obtaining lucidity. I've also had mixed results where i've smoked before bed and had 0 dream recall...

I honestly believe the mind is a very powerful tool that can steer you in either direction depending on what you strong believe so I suggest you all stay open minded and just simply see what works best for you.

I'm in the same boat as you, pal. I hate the people who hate on pot too, they just can't handle the change in the way you think and it makes them paranoid and unsettled - kind of like a bad trip.

But yeah, I've had interesting stoned dream experiences before and in my opinion stoned dreams are much more exciting and intense but remembering them is more difficult just like trying to remember most other shit when you get high all the time, lol.

Originally Posted by shooshtime

so those of you who try to state cannabis makes people lazy and idiotic really pisses me off, just another stereotype from those unwilling to do any real research on the true effects and not the bullshit you were taught.

It really does affect some people that way, but not everybody.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

It really does affect some people that way, but not everybody.

Only if you let it... it's like anything else. You abuse it then it can cause problems.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

It really does affect some people that way, but not everybody.

It affects me that way when I want it to, and it affects me differently when I don't, just like my sober mood - if I want to be lazy I am, being stoned just makes it a lot easier.

Originally Posted by shooshtime

Only if you let it... it's like anything else. You abuse it then it can cause problems.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Suplux

Also, about making you lazy and unmotivated. This is a stereotype I just can't stand and I must say, again, I haven't found this to be the case. Personally, my grades have gone up and since I started smoking I have only received A's (in highschool). Also, I have seen no lack of motivation, in fact maybe just the opposite. I ENJOY cleaning my room, cleaning dishes, taking out the trash, etc...while high. I just don't seem to get lazy while high. Sure, it CAN be enjoyable to sit back with some music and chill out, but if you don't have the will power to get up and do what needs to be done (even while high), then you are pathetic and probably shouldn't be smoking anyways.

Sativa vs. indicata. Indicata I want to sit and do nothing. Sativa I have a hard time choosing what to do .

Originally Posted by Supernova

Sativa vs. indicata. Indicata I want to sit and do nothing. Sativa I have a hard time choosing what to do .

It's just 'indica' but you're totally right. Sativa is total head high awesomeness that makes you have way more fun doing whatever it is you're doing, and indica makes you real stoned and lazy.

The good strains are the ones that are mostly sativa with a kick of indica, but I do like my pure sativas. (Sativas make me so good at online games XD, I rage Modern Warfare like it's nobody's business.)

Out of personal experience I'd say smoking pot before bed isn't a good idea if your intent is to increase lucid dream chances and recall.

I smoke weed on a nightly basis, before I go to bed, and my dream recall suffers from it, but it's just too big of a trade off to stop completely. This isn't to say I don't remember dreams anymore, just less because of it.

About weed making you lazy, this is a massive generalization. Lazy people are going to be lazy people. This isn't the marrijuana. Even when people say it is, it's mostly because they're looking for an easy explanation to rationalize their laziness.

I hear "Weed made me stupid" a lot too. Weed does not make you stupid. Most of the time, like before, they're just looking for something to blame. Because they are lazy, and put no effort into educating themselves, they look for things to blame instead of doing something about it, and then continue with their mindless activities and stop thinking about it.

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

Out of personal experience I'd say smoking pot before bed isn't a good idea if your intent is to increase lucid dream chances and recall.

I smoke weed on a nightly basis, before I go to bed, and my dream recall suffers from it, but it's just too big of a trade off to stop completely. This isn't to say I don't remember dreams anymore, just less because of it.

About weed making you lazy, this is a massive generalization. Lazy people are going to be lazy people. This isn't the marrijuana. Even when people say it is, it's mostly because they're looking for an easy explanation to rationalize their laziness.

I hear "Weed made me stupid" a lot too. Weed does not make you stupid. Most of the time, like before, they're just looking for something to blame. Because they are lazy, and put no effort into educating themselves, they look for things to blame instead of doing something about it, and then continue with their mindless activities and stop thinking about it.

You really couldn't of expressed my opinion in a better way - I completely agree with you.

Originally Posted by mfratt

PS. Admins, if this discussion is not allowed, please forgive me and close the thread, I'm just curious as to other people's experiences with marijuana and lucid dreaming.

At the moment, this is our policy on drugs:


Posting pictures of drugs or tools used to take/make drugs and discussing how to take/make drugs is prohibited.
Discussion of drugs that pertain only to dreaming are allowed.

I'd say you're fine. Just use common sense; if it's an illegal drug, you may not want to advertise where you are getting it, ect. ect. just as you wouldn't want to advertise any other illegal activity.



When it comes to weed, though--it's bad for memory. Recall is the foundation of dreaming. When recall goes, so does everything else. No matter how awesome and vivid your dreams might get, it's all for nothing if you can't remember them. For that reason, if you're looking for something to enhance vividness, I'd recommend trying something else.

Also, not to be knocking lucid aids and supplements, but if you stick with the basic techniques and practice them consistently, your dreams will get more vivid, I promise.

Smoking has never helped me to lucid dream...in fact quite the opposite. At times when I used to smoke often my recall would go down the drain and my lucidity was nonexistent.

I believe something like marijuana would not be beneficial for lucid dreaming. You need to be sharpening your mind and your awareness...not dulling it.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Smoking has never helped me to lucid dream...in fact quite the opposite. At times when I used to smoke often my recall would go down the drain and my lucidity was nonexistent.

I believe something like marijuana would not be beneficial for lucid dreaming. You need to be sharpening your mind and your awareness...not dulling it.

It's true, like states above, recall is the foundation of lucid dreaming and without it you have nothing. I would suggest mastering lucid dreaming and dream recall before attempting to experiement with the effects of marijuana on lucid dreaming.

Once in a while puff wont do much, but smoking often DEF kills your Dream Recall, but then again....how is that different from anything else that weed makes one forget lol

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

Iligle drugs are iligel for a reason

lol...sorry this made me laugh