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      Marijuana is good for a sleep aid, but not so great in the department of dream recall.

      And lol at users saying it makes you lazy. Please

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      I'm in the exact situation right now, quit smoking again and my dream recall is fantastic as in 3 a night at least

      I used to be an all day smoker in my 20 and early 30's, then a daily nightime (right after work until bed) maybe 1 to 2 joints a night

      i agree with zero recall maybe one a month if lucky or an especially crazy dream. IMO weed and dream recall do not mix but i must say besides making you tired and maybe a little uninspired its not as bad as some make it out to be to each his own i guess

      within 2 days of quitting its all back though... Iam starting to believe some people's opinions of using it as a wilding tool in WOBTB situation

      not smoking and being wrapped up in this lucid thing again 2 1/2 weeks now has really messed up my sleeping (its 2 am right now went to bed at 10 30 woke up 5 minutes to write my dream at 12 ish and havent been able to fall asleep after tosiing and turning for an hour ....now i just get up and do something (like come here or play online poker)and go back to bed.

      funny thing is i dont feel like its messing up my days and dont feel extra tired at all ...is it possible i dont need 7 -8 hrs of sleep?
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      I don't know if I am just lucky or if you guys are unlucky but...

      Firstly, I smoke marijuana just about every day and if anything, my lucid ability and dream recall have only been on a steady improvement. Now, I don't think it's a result of the marijuana, it's just that the marijuana hasn't been detrimental. I still recall about 2 dreams per night (up from 0 a few months ago). I don't keep dream journals or anything else.

      Also, about making you lazy and unmotivated. This is a stereotype I just can't stand and I must say, again, I haven't found this to be the case. Personally, my grades have gone up and since I started smoking I have only received A's (in highschool). Also, I have seen no lack of motivation, in fact maybe just the opposite. I ENJOY cleaning my room, cleaning dishes, taking out the trash, etc...while high. I just don't seem to get lazy while high. Sure, it CAN be enjoyable to sit back with some music and chill out, but if you don't have the will power to get up and do what needs to be done (even while high), then you are pathetic and probably shouldn't be smoking anyways.

      Anyways, I think that if you want to smoke weed, that is fine. In my opinion it really hasn't been detrimental (to lucid dreaming) and I think you can enjoy both!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Suplux View Post
      I don't know if I am just lucky or if you guys are unlucky but...

      Firstly, I smoke marijuana just about every day and if anything, my lucid ability and dream recall have only been on a steady improvement. Now, I don't think it's a result of the marijuana, it's just that the marijuana hasn't been detrimental. I still recall about 2 dreams per night (up from 0 a few months ago). I don't keep dream journals or anything else.

      Also, about making you lazy and unmotivated. This is a stereotype I just can't stand and I must say, again, I haven't found this to be the case. Personally, my grades have gone up and since I started smoking I have only received A's (in highschool). Also, I have seen no lack of motivation, in fact maybe just the opposite. I ENJOY cleaning my room, cleaning dishes, taking out the trash, etc...while high. I just don't seem to get lazy while high. Sure, it CAN be enjoyable to sit back with some music and chill out, but if you don't have the will power to get up and do what needs to be done (even while high), then you are pathetic and probably shouldn't be smoking anyways.

      Anyways, I think that if you want to smoke weed, that is fine. In my opinion it really hasn't been detrimental (to lucid dreaming) and I think you can enjoy both!
      i have to agree with you on this...there are alot of stereotypes about weed and in my experience it affects people in very different ways...some types do get lazy and stupid...but i have also know others who were quite brilliant people and smoked all day long....and accomplished a lot...for some it makes them relaxed and social, for others, paranoid and introverted...people are all unique....

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      I agree completely which is why I hate to see that stereotype thrown around so often.

      Anyways, here is a list of the "10 most successful marijuana users". Of course, it doesn't really mean anything because as you said, everyone reacts differently, but it does show that marijuana does not always and unfailingly cause you to become a lazy, typical "pot head".

      http://coedmagazine.com/2009/02/06/t...h-to-admit-it/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Suplux View Post
      I agree completely which is why I hate to see that stereotype thrown around so often.

      Anyways, here is a list of the "10 most successful marijuana users". Of course, it doesn't really mean anything because as you said, everyone reacts differently, but it does show that marijuana does not always and unfailingly cause you to become a lazy, typical "pot head".

      http://coedmagazine.com/2009/02/06/t...h-to-admit-it/
      thanx for the link....that was great....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Suplux View Post
      Also, about making you lazy and unmotivated. This is a stereotype I just can't stand and I must say, again, I haven't found this to be the case. Personally, my grades have gone up and since I started smoking I have only received A's (in highschool). Also, I have seen no lack of motivation, in fact maybe just the opposite. I ENJOY cleaning my room, cleaning dishes, taking out the trash, etc...while high. I just don't seem to get lazy while high. Sure, it CAN be enjoyable to sit back with some music and chill out, but if you don't have the will power to get up and do what needs to be done (even while high), then you are pathetic and probably shouldn't be smoking anyways.
      Sativa vs. indicata. Indicata I want to sit and do nothing. Sativa I have a hard time choosing what to do .

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      Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
      Sativa vs. indicata. Indicata I want to sit and do nothing. Sativa I have a hard time choosing what to do .
      It's just 'indica' but you're totally right. Sativa is total head high awesomeness that makes you have way more fun doing whatever it is you're doing, and indica makes you real stoned and lazy.

      The good strains are the ones that are mostly sativa with a kick of indica, but I do like my pure sativas. (Sativas make me so good at online games XD, I rage Modern Warfare like it's nobody's business.)
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      Out of personal experience I'd say smoking pot before bed isn't a good idea if your intent is to increase lucid dream chances and recall.

      I smoke weed on a nightly basis, before I go to bed, and my dream recall suffers from it, but it's just too big of a trade off to stop completely. This isn't to say I don't remember dreams anymore, just less because of it.

      About weed making you lazy, this is a massive generalization. Lazy people are going to be lazy people. This isn't the marrijuana. Even when people say it is, it's mostly because they're looking for an easy explanation to rationalize their laziness.

      I hear "Weed made me stupid" a lot too. Weed does not make you stupid. Most of the time, like before, they're just looking for something to blame. Because they are lazy, and put no effort into educating themselves, they look for things to blame instead of doing something about it, and then continue with their mindless activities and stop thinking about it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SpecialInterests View Post
      Out of personal experience I'd say smoking pot before bed isn't a good idea if your intent is to increase lucid dream chances and recall.

      I smoke weed on a nightly basis, before I go to bed, and my dream recall suffers from it, but it's just too big of a trade off to stop completely. This isn't to say I don't remember dreams anymore, just less because of it.

      About weed making you lazy, this is a massive generalization. Lazy people are going to be lazy people. This isn't the marrijuana. Even when people say it is, it's mostly because they're looking for an easy explanation to rationalize their laziness.

      I hear "Weed made me stupid" a lot too. Weed does not make you stupid. Most of the time, like before, they're just looking for something to blame. Because they are lazy, and put no effort into educating themselves, they look for things to blame instead of doing something about it, and then continue with their mindless activities and stop thinking about it.
      You really couldn't of expressed my opinion in a better way - I completely agree with you.
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      Yeah, marijuana (Though makes dreams more exciting/vivid) does destroy your memory in general and therfore your dream recall as well.

      I found that smoking some after getting 5-6 hours sleep then going back to sleep is great for WILDS But most of the time smoking does nothing but destroy dream recall entirely (Unless you're a really good remember-er).
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      Marijuana simply enhances emotions and feelings. If you think depressed feelings when you're high, it'll feel like it's the marijuana making you particularly depressed, same with happiness, sadness, etc.

      I've been smoking regularly for years now, and sure it does make you lazy sometimes but who gives a shit? There are times when even without pot all I want to do is sit on my ass - pot just makes that way more exciting.


      People who say it does nothing but fuck you up and slow you down are simply too unintelligent to appreciate the actual benefits of getting stoned - which does nothing but enhance. I've felt like absolute shit after getting high before but that only happens when I feel like shit anyway. Pot's great to bring out the feelings you're trying to store away and cope with them because it makes them more obvious.

      If you think happy thoughts whilst high, you'll be happy, same about anxiety etc. You can always control what thoughts you think, pot just makes them enhaned and seemly hard to deal with sometimes though it's very easy to cope once you learn exactly how it affects you as an individual.
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      Silly Stoners!! hehe

      Once in a while puff wont do much, but smoking often DEF kills your Dream Recall, but then again....how is that different from anything else that weed makes one forget lol


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      Quote Originally Posted by Alexander1656 View Post
      Iligle drugs are iligel for a reason
      lol...sorry this made me laugh

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      The off-topic stuff was split here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Aquanina View Post
      lol...sorry this made me laugh
      Well, nina, he's right. Pot's illegal because the logging industry would loose a ton of money because hemp can be made into paper faster and cheaper. There's always a reason for illegal drugs to be illegal.

      As for the original question: pot kills my recall so no, I don't think pot will help you get lucid.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      As for the original question: pot kills my recall so no, I don't think pot will help you get lucid.
      Well, technically it might help you get lucid. But who would know after you wake up?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      Well, technically it might help you get lucid. But who would know after you wake up?
      Someone who's mastered recall despite the memory-debilitating effects of marijuana, which is possible, it just takes some real motivation and determination.
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      Quote Originally Posted by waving on oceans View Post
      Once in a while puff wont do much, but smoking often DEF kills your Dream Recall, but then again....how is that different from anything else that weed makes one forget lol

      Nothing is definite. I smoke everyday, several times a day, and just before sleep every night. My recall doesn't suffer in the slightest. I guess if you have been smoking as much for as long as I have your body gets used to it. My dreams are often very vivid and completely insane (the way I like them). I can't really say if the weed actually helps (haven't had enough non smoking nights to compare it to), but it isn't hurting either. You can still smoke regularly and lucid dream regularly. I'm proof of that. It just takes practice and putting in the effort to remember your dreams.

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      Quote Originally Posted by smoke_1966 View Post
      I'm in the exact situation right now, quit smoking again and my dream recall is fantastic as in 3 a night at least

      I used to be an all day smoker in my 20 and early 30's, then a daily nightime (right after work until bed) maybe 1 to 2 joints a night

      i agree with zero recall maybe one a month if lucky or an especially crazy dream. IMO weed and dream recall do not mix but i must say besides making you tired and maybe a little uninspired its not as bad as some make it out to be to each his own i guess

      within 2 days of quitting its all back though... Iam starting to believe some people's opinions of using it as a wilding tool in WOBTB situation

      not smoking and being wrapped up in this lucid thing again 2 1/2 weeks now has really messed up my sleeping (its 2 am right now went to bed at 10 30 woke up 5 minutes to write my dream at 12 ish and havent been able to fall asleep after tosiing and turning for an hour ....now i just get up and do something (like come here or play online poker)and go back to bed.

      funny thing is i dont feel like its messing up my days and dont feel extra tired at all ...is it possible i dont need 7 -8 hrs of sleep?
      Yeah it's actually pretty amazing how much your recall comes back when you take a break, it's pretty phenomenal. I remember when I went to see my mom in Scotland a couple years ago, I had no choice but to stop because I had no idea where to find any XD. Anyway, I started remembering a good extremely vivid 5 dreams a night and it was amazing!

      The fact that pot destroys your recall is it's one and only flaw (in my opinion).
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