Thread: Waking lucid dreams??

100% a thing you will experience and need to deal with. After years I have formed my own methods of dealing with it. When you reach waking consciousness (lucidity) it occurs to your being that your body should become aroused. It will draw focus to your body, leading to you start feeling your body. That needs shut down fast!See my Dream Yoga thread on Suppressing emerging thought. You successfully stop the cascade that would draw attention to the body. Good. Another thing starts happening. You have shifted slightly out of the state you need to sustain a true REM vivid dream. It causes the advanced graphics to break down. While slightly out of phase with the dream state you can reduce your focus to some very simple aspect of the graphics. I minimize what I am trying to render to the absolute smallest. Say I am in a room and become lucid. My body tries to wake, but I have sidestepped that (I have ignored my body swiftly and skillfully). Now I am not in phase for true REM and the visuals collapse. I would perhaps stop to tie my shoe. This means I look down and bend down. Now the room is gone and the only visuals needing rendered is a shoe and my hands. I let it go black and white. I calmly examine my shoe while slowly pulling up the laces. I am not seeing the room, only the shoe and hands, and in black and white. I stay occupied however long it takes to be stable. That is, not at all sensing my sleeping body or even thinking about it, and waiting to be fully back in REM.
This is pretty advanced in that it takes practice, but hopefully some of the thoughts help.

Originally Posted by sivason

100% a thing you will experience and need to deal with. After years I have formed my own methods of dealing with it. When you reach waking consciousness (lucidity) it occurs to your being that your body should become aroused. It will draw focus to your body, leading to you start feeling your body. That needs shut down fast!See my Dream Yoga thread on Suppressing emerging thought. You successfully stop the cascade that would draw attention to the body. Good. Another thing starts happening. You have shifted slightly out of the state you need to sustain a true REM vivid dream. It causes the advanced graphics to break down. While slightly out of phase with the dream state you can reduce your focus to some very simple aspect of the graphics. I minimize what I am trying to render to the absolute smallest. Say I am in a room and become lucid. My body tries to wake, but I have sidestepped that (I have ignored my body swiftly and skillfully). Now I am not in phase for true REM and the visuals collapse. I would perhaps stop to tie my shoe. This means I look down and bend down. Now the room is gone and the only visuals needing rendered is a shoe and my hands. I let it go black and white. I calmly examine my shoe while slowly pulling up the laces. I am not seeing the room, only the shoe and hands, and in black and white. I stay occupied however long it takes to be stable. That is, not at all sensing my sleeping body or even thinking about it, and waiting to be fully back in REM.
This is pretty advanced in that it takes practice, but hopefully some of the thoughts help.

Sivason thanks for reminding me of an old visualization technique, I experimented with back in the days. Just cleaned the dust of some of my lucid journals and found her.

While relaxing on my back I visualize nothing else but myself in third person and slowly transfer my viewpoint to first person while looking at the ground, slowly rising my vision and look around, the scene is rendering by itself. ^^