Thread: Will MELATONIN really help?

Hi Karlitaki - I sometimes have trouble sleeping so have tried taking Melatonin at times and it helped. I took straight Melatonin and usually 1mg I think ( have to check when I get home but pretty sure it was 1 ) it helped and when I could do that and sleep in I think it helped with rem re - bound.

Anyway inorder to LD we need to sleep right so if I go through phases of not sleeping properly I reach for Melatonin

Hope that helps - wishing you lots of Lucids

thank you very much for your answer !
cheers - ill have my dose in a week or two!

I have read a book on Lucid dreaming and supplements some time ago and since lost the book, but I do recall a few things about what he said about Melatonin. The author broke the types of lucid dream encouraging supplements into two classes. The first being those whose primary effect on lucid dreaming was the result of the rebound effect where if you depress REM sleep during the first few hours of sleep the brain will compensate later in ones sleep session, this is where melatonin falls in. This will cause a increase in dream length and frequency towards the morning hours. And this is all true from my experiences with that particular chemical.

The second class are those including and similar to the well known chemical galantamine, whose purpose is to increase the likelihood of REM sleep, heighten awareness, increase working memory, and dream duration immediately. This class is most often associated with WILDS and the WBTB method since they are taken right before the Lucid dream attempt. On a side note these molecules safe and well tolerated as they may be in the short term should not be taken over a long period of time.

Originally Posted by Valis1

I have read a book on Lucid dreaming and supplements some time ago and since lost the book, but I do recall a few things about what he said about Melatonin. The author broke the types of lucid dream encouraging supplements into two classes. The first being those whose primary effect on lucid dreaming was the result of the rebound effect where if you depress REM sleep during the first few hours of sleep the brain will compensate later in ones sleep session, this is where melatonin falls in. This will cause a increase in dream length and frequency towards the morning hours. And this is all true from my experiences with that particular chemical.

The second class are those including and similar to the well known chemical galantamine, whose purpose is to increase the likelihood of REM sleep, heighten awareness, increase working memory, and dream duration immediately. This class is most often associated with WILDS and the WBTB method since they are taken right before the Lucid dream attempt. On a side note these molecules safe and well tolerated as they may be in the short term should not be taken over a long period of time.

The book you mean is Advanced Lucid Dreaming, The Power of Supplements by Thomas Yuschak. google "Advanced Lucid Dreaming, The Power of Supplements" and you will find an ebook of it

Thank you very much, I don't remember a great deal of it any more it would be nice to go over it again.

Is taking it, even just now and again, likely to affect one's natural ability to have vivid dreams? Or would that only happen if you smashed it every night?

No I don't think taking it rarely would have any detrimental effects on your lucid dreaming practice. From what I know melatonin is very safe and well tolerated, I have seen stories of people who took it for months on end, which your really not supposed to do and can cause a mild psychological dependence, but even then a few weeks of abstinence brought them back to normal and again they took large doses for a long time. So i think you should be fine.

Originally Posted by Valis1

No I don't think taking it rarely would have any detrimental effects on your lucid dreaming practice. From what I know melatonin is very safe and well tolerated, I have seen stories of people who took it for months on end, which your really not supposed to do and can cause a mild psychological dependence, but even then a few weeks of abstinence brought them back to normal and again they took large doses for a long time. So i think you should be fine.

Good to know, thanks Valis. I don't want to derail this thread, but I tried taking some 5-HTP last night to help with vividness and, contrarily, I couldn't remember a single dream when I woke up this morning. I also tried a WBTB to no avail

Never mind!

your welcome. I have had some experience with 5-htp. The first time I took it, not sure what MG it was, i got a weird pressure headache in the very centre of my brain that lasted for several hours, not horrible but uncomfortable. More recently I purchased a bottle and it said on the label that it wouldn't work fully for 5 days. I took 2-3 a day, the first few days I had bad insomnia. After about the fifth day the insomnia went away and I noticed a pretty decent increase in my mood. I did not experience a increase in DILDs, there was a slight change in the emotional content of my dreams, but no noticeable change in clarity.

thank you guys for replying to my questions and giving more infos im getting my dose in 1-2 weeks and will try daily just one pill.

Hey, i got the melatonin ^_^
i tried just one pil 0.3MG (300MCG)
didnt feel sleepy or anything but i woke up at 7-8 am and was refreshed, then i decided to take a short hour nap while listening to some audiobook =D
i got lucid! i was at the point where i was like sleeping and relaxing every part of my body and i started flying without wanting to? through everything.. lol.

maybe it increased my thing to lucid dream after u wake up since i am still in REM - what u think?

thanks to all of ya - love ya.

Oh nice lucid Flying is always good fun - especially flying through walls and over big open views!

i take 5 now sometimes - = 1.3MG but it doesnt do anything much ill just finish it and see the difference though ;p