Thread: Can't seem to enter a dream, even if i'm completely laying still

Originally Posted by xLawliet

Anyone who can help?

Prepare your favorite beverage, get very comfortable,visit Sageous's DVA WILD class thread, and read, and read, and read…
Follow the class, and you'll be on the right path.

What WILD anchor are you using? If the anchor requires too much concentration, it could be keeping you awake. You have to find the right balance so that your anchor doesn't keep you awake but also lets you remain aware as you enter your dream.

Sometimes a technique just isn't for you, but you've only tried it a couple of times - this is a learning process that never stops, and can take a long time. One of the most experienced lucid dreamers I know from an old IRC practised for 8 years before getting his first lucid dream, and even then it was from a very personalised method! This is definitely an extreme case, but my point is, it's gonna take dedication, time and effort to get into the swing of things.

Personally, WILD has never worked for me. I don't know why, it just hasn't. I can never stay focused enough to not just fall asleep without awareness for some reason. I either stay awake, or fall asleep completely - no dreams. Are you using the WBTB method? If not, this will be another issue. It's damn near impossible (not impossible, but very difficult) to be able to fall straight asleep into a dream, because it's just not how the body works when you're sleeping. You have your sleep cycle, and must be in a REM stage to have dreams (generally). Make sure you're waking up 4.5, 6, or 7.5 hours into your sleep for about 10 to 20 minutes then trying the WILD method again - this way, you'll be waking up during a REM period and (hopefully) falling asleep back into one - into a dream.

Keep at it, and keep up the effort. Remember this is a long journey, and there's no rush. Enjoy where you're at now, and enjoy your lengthy non-lucid dreams. They can be some of the best experiences you can have!

There were certain techniques I used to use in order to enter hypnotic states, and they used to sometimes work, but no longer seem to be working for me now at all. I was falsely attributing certain actions to certain outcomes. There would be a correlation: when I entered a LD, I was doing X, Y and Z, so those actions must've been what triggered it! Well, no, not necessarily. Just like rubbing your hands together doesn't, in itself, stabilize a dream, laying still via the WILD method won't be what initiates a lucid dream.

I have to point out that most of these techniques are unreliable and only increase the likelihood of experiencing a lucid dream.

You really don't have to stay completely still
It's about being comfortable.

Remember, you're trying to fall asleep
Laying down stiff as a board isn't going to be much help
to you :p

Hey there,

I agree with the Acmic. I've never had a WILD while trying to lay completely still. As a matter of fact that usually just gets me in a state where I'm unable to sleep anymore. The WILDS I had have all been when I tried to just sleep as normal.

-Redrivertears-

if you're trying to do this right at bedtime it's gonna be a lot harder in my humble opinion. not saying it can't happen but in my experience it's not as easy. best time to try it is during a nap or after you wake up in the morning and have the opportunity to go back to bed.

It can be hard, since the idea is to basically fall asleep while remaining awake. So obviously the two most common outcomes is you either stay awake and don't enter the dream, or you fall asleep and fail to be lucid. As others mentioned, it might help if you try it earlier in the day closer to when you have woken up in the morning. It might even help if you wake up a little early and then go back to sleep and try it.