Thread: What is the general progression for noobs?

I would suggest, though, that you consider giving less priority to things like binaural beats while you are learning to LD. It is probably better to save such mechanisms for later, after you've had a few LD's on your own, and are well aware of the process as it "naturally" occurs; and that process will include dreams. I think you will appreciate that you did it on your own.

I strongly agree with Sageous. I never like to use binaural beats or anything that will help me, because in the end I won't be as proficient with LDing as if I had learned it on my own. I think its best Dragon, to become independent and free of such things in your practice because most LDers who do tend to use beats find themselves starting to depend solely on those soundtracks to become lucid.
However, if you're fine with that then go ahead and use them man. Some people like to have those things to fall back on, and that's not a problem. On the other hand, if you're really getting into using a lucid mindset effectively it is best, in my opinion, to stay independent as I said earlier so that you can better your LDing skills. Depend on only yourself and you'll find that though you may have chosen the harder path, you'll be able to LD at will after some practice.

Originally Posted by OneUp

I strongly agree with Sageous. I never like to use binaural beats or anything that will help me, because in the end I won't be as proficient with LDing as if I had learned it on my own. I think its best Dragon, to become independent and free of such things in your practice because most LDers who do tend to use beats find themselves starting to depend solely on those soundtracks to become lucid.
However, if you're fine with that then go ahead and use them man. Some people like to have those things to fall back on, and that's not a problem. On the other hand, if you're really getting into using a lucid mindset effectively it is best, in my opinion, to stay independent as I said earlier so that you can better your LDing skills. Depend on only yourself and you'll find that though you may have chosen the harder path, you'll be able to LD at will after some practice.

I agree with the beats thing. I use them sometimes but they never work, only make me feel weird and make me fall asleep quick. Most people are eager and want to jump in quick, like I kinda was and still kinda am, but it takes practice, trust me you will see results, just last night I kinda had a lucid dream and I've been neglecting RCs and DJs for MONTHS and I've just jumped back in it hardcore like this weekend/monday and my results are already coming back in. If you're lucky like me and my friend you'll start seeing them early, just have faith, because if your mind is doubting, then your subconscious will take that and work against you.
I read a post of a guy who was doing it for like what, 4 months? 7 at the most, and now he has em every night.