Thread: Split Marijuana Discussion

Iligle drugs are iligel for a reason
(Sorry for my bad spelling!)

That is propaganda taught to you by closed minded individuals with their own agendas at hand.

We are saying it is bad. We are teaching it. Therefore he is calling us closed minded.
BTW:
Propaganda is simply ways of spreading information. Sadly the only times we talk about it is when it is missused.
Advertisements, the News (It stands for North south east and west, because it comes from all over the world. It is not the plural of new.), flyers ect. are propaganda.

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

Iligle drugs are iligel for a reason

Do you assume that none of those reasons are corrupt? Please explain why marijuana is illegal while alcohol is legal.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Do you assume that none of those reasons are corrupt? Please explain why marijuana is illegal while alcohol is legal.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm

First of all, I am asking for your response, not somebody else's report. Were you trying to indirectly say that marijuana should be illegal because it poses certain health problems if done too much? With that reasoning, think of all of the things we need to ban, things much worse for health than marijuana. One of those things would be alcohol, which brings up the part of my challenge you neglected. Considering the name of the web site you used, how exactly did you miss the rest of my challenge?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Do you assume that none of those reasons are corrupt? Please explain why marijuana is illegal while alcohol is legal.

We could of course talk about tobacco (11,000 deaths per day), high fat foods (one of the top killers there is), and recreational driving (Driving/riding in automobiles is another one of the grand champions of human death.), but we can stick to alcohol for now. How many people have died because of alcohol today?

http://www.gdcada.org/statistics/alcohol.htm

Now please finish the explanation I asked you for. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

First of all, I am asking for your response, not somebody else's report.

Oh, so perfectly good information is now invalid because someone else wrote it? Pfft.

We could of course talk about tobacco (11,000 deaths per day)

By all means do, New Zealand is considering banning cigarettes. I hope they go through with it.

Originally Posted by Loaf

Oh, so perfectly good information is now invalid because someone else wrote it? Pfft.

Do you honestly think that was my point? Do you really think I was saying the information is invalid? Pffft. As I suggested, the fact that something can cause health problems for the user is not a legitimate basis for making or keeping it illegal. Therefore, just posting a link to health statistics concerning marijuana did not answer my question. Understand?

Since you are in this and you thanked Alexander for his last post, I challenge you to address the issues I raised. Let's see what you can tell us about them.

Edit: You just added your expression of lack of respect for personal freedom when it comes to tobacco, so how about the other issues I raised?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Edit: You just added your expression of lack of respect for personal freedom when it comes to tobacco, so how about the other issues I raised?

Its not about lack of freedom, its about breaking the chain now so future generations aren't exposed to harm. If you take away cigarettes now, nobody will care about it once all the past users have passed away. Why should I have to inhale second hand smoke just because some bozo can't kick his useless addiction. I for one won't stand and watch perfectly good human beings die, just so they can get a "buzz".

You can't compare eating fatty foods to smoking marijuana. Thats like comparing taking a bicycle ride to taking a train.

Originally Posted by Loaf

Its not about lack of freedom, its about breaking the chain now so future generations aren't exposed to harm. If you take away cigarettes now, nobody will care about it once all the past users have passed away. Why should I have to inhale second hand smoke just because some bozo can't kick his useless addiction. I for one won't stand and watch perfectly good human beings die, just so they can get a "buzz".

It's not your call. It's theirs. Who are you to tell people how well they should be required to take care of their own bodies? Whether or not smoking is allowed in a particular facility should be up to the facility owner, not the government. If you don't like second hand smoke, stay out of the facilities where it exists.

Originally Posted by Loaf

You can't compare eating fatty foods to smoking marijuana. Thats like comparing taking a bicycle ride to taking a train.

You're going to need to explain that. Heart disease is the number one killer in the United States, and I imagine it is a big killer in New Zealand too. How many people does marijuana kill per year?

I raised other issues, including recreational driving and alcohol. Where do you stand on those?

Originally Posted by Loaf

Its not about lack of freedom, its about breaking the chain now so future generations aren't exposed to harm. If you take away cigarettes now, nobody will care about it once all the past users have passed away. Why should I have to inhale second hand smoke just because some bozo can't kick his useless addiction. I for one won't stand and watch perfectly good human beings die, just so they can get a "buzz".

You can't compare eating fatty foods to smoking marijuana. Thats like comparing taking a bicycle ride to taking a train.

Sorry to butt in, but I wanted to. (Okay, so maybe I'm not THAT sorry.)
You know, making things illegal does invade someone's personal freedom of choice. If you take away ciggies, people will still smoke. Drugs & marijuana are illegal, yet here, in Mexico, the most violent war is the drug war. Why? Because it's illegal! It's not fair for someone else to decide whether you should do something or not, it simply isn't.

Fatty foods are even more toxic and dangerous than marijuana. At least marijuana is natural and free from chemicals.