Thread: Let's Study Sacred Geometry

God likes patterns and harmony, what can I say.

QED.

hi there, me again! found another fun example!

for all those who meditate! or even just flat out hallucinate weird geometrical things

in the hindu and buddhist tradition OM is the sound of creation. When meditating to the sound OM, the monks began to see this image. And they drew the image, a mandala, Sri Yantra

this drawing is from the 18th century


so this drawing is based on what they saw while meditating to OM

and this is OM spoken into an electronic transmitter


really id talk about the harmonics of music, sound and form, but thats way beyond my head

so you get this example instead!

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

God likes patterns and harmony, what can I say.

QED.

Almost makes you want to believe in intelligent design, doesn't it?

There's no way that the perfection of the universe, nature, and the harmonic way that everything interacts could have been formed from random chance.



Centric diatom, a microscopic organism that lives in abundance in the ocean



Nautilus shell, the shell of a creature that has been around since the time of the dinosaurs and continues to exist

Click for img, too large for me to want to embed

Honeycombs of bees, perfect hexagons

There's just... no... way.

...so are you going to derive the golden ratio or not?

There's no way that the perfection of the universe, nature, and the harmonic way that everything interacts could have been formed from random chance.

Why not? The evidence shows that it clearly was due to chance. Patterns arise without guidance.

What's with all those Sacred Geometry movies for kids?

The Last Mimzy
Bridge to Terebithia
The Dark Crystal

There's a whole bunch more I can't think of at the moment.

this thread is hilarious. "Sacred geometry is the belief that everything is based on sacred geometry." Orly? I love how people are throwing out tons of baseless claims. "Sacred geometry has a ton of applications" "Like what" "The hell if I know, I'm no scientist!!"

"There is no way that all the patterns in the world came into existence solely through chance." First of all, if you study around a bit you'll find that patterns are actually more likely to occur by "chance" (especially the type of chance that includes elements of non-chance, e.g. evolution where chance symmetry is encouraged by natural selection). For example, bilateral symmetry gives organisms the ability to interact with their environment just as well from all sides, is more attractive to mates (selective mating), among other things. In just the same way, this so called "golden ratio" was most probably encouraged through evolution.

Sacred geometry is very interesting

This is how sound makes patterns:



Snowflakes:


















Fibonacci numbers:

Originally Posted by The Cusp

What's with all those Sacred Geometry movies for kids?

The Last Mimzy
Bridge to Terebithia
The Dark Crystal

There's a whole bunch more I can't think of at the moment.

the bridge to terabithia? really? I must have missed that one

kids love Sacred Geometry, except they just call it pretty designs

Originally Posted by Xei

...so are you going to derive the golden ratio or not?

I don't understand your question? I already showed through an image how to derive the golden ratio from natures first pattern, or do you want to see more in between steps?

Originally Posted by juroara

I don't understand your question? I already showed through an image how to derive the golden ratio from natures first pattern, or do you want to see more in between steps?

See, this is my point. You don't actually have any idea what you're talking about; your ideas are entirely superficial.

If you had any comprehension beyond aesthetics, you would know that the golden ratio (you must know what a ratio is, surely?) is an irrational number which can be easily found from its definition.

Do you know what its definition is?

Originally Posted by Xei

See, this is my point. You don't actually have any idea what you're talking about; your ideas are entirely superficial.

xei it is a FACT that the golden spiral is found in Sacred Geometry

the actual GEOMETRY of sacred geometry, is still, GEOMETRY

and it takes more than a few minutes to find all of the geometrical forms.

seriously. all you do is look for something to insult people with. and in this case you have this idea that I'm ignorant about sacred geometry. guess what xei, I admitted I've only been studying sacred geometry for two months. most sacred geometry gurus have been at this for YEARS.

I said I created this thread to study sacred geometry with others. not that I knew everything about it. so I don't understand why you feel the need to argue about my desire to openly study sacred geometry with others

have you ever drawn the pattern of life before?

do you realize you need to draw the pattern of life EVERY TIME you start sacred geometry?

do you know how much time that takes?

I don't have any computer programs to do it for me, so I have to draw it by hand. which I have. and if your drawing tool is off by even a tiny tiny millimeter - then you're drawing is inaccurate and some where down the line, lines that should connect don't. meaning you won't be able to find the geometrical patterns. making all your time and effort drawing these over-lapping circles useless

it doesn't help my drawing tool only uses a pencil, and the varying thickness of the pencil line as it draws on the page creates millimeter variations. the pattern of life must be mathematically precise, there is no room for error.

so hell no, I am not going to sit here and draw for hours to prove that the golden spiral is in Sacred Geometry. there is nothing to dispute here. it is in Sacred Geometry, we know this, others have shown how you find it

your'e repsect is worthless. but because im sooo kind, Ive wasted more of my time finding these images

Originally Posted by juroara

I think this image might relate to the Mayan Calender for those in the knows?

i didn't search enough to find an image, but there's this;

on mayan geometry;
http://www.ethnomath.org/resources/ISGEm/067.htm

sacred geometry and the mayan calendar;
http://www.mayanmajix.com/3nn02_01_04.html

an ongoing project on sacred geometry in mayan sciences;
http://alignment2012.com/SacredGeom-Video.html

thanks for all the info juroara! i've really learnt a lot (still reading).

Originally Posted by Xei

The evidence shows that it clearly was due to chance.

As far as I am aware there is lack of evidence when we look at how and why things began, only theory. If you claim there is evidence, please cite your sources.

When did I mention abiogenesis?

The most striking patterns in nature are organic, and organisms arise through natural selection, which is an uncontrolled, chaotic process.

ohh thank you! you posted the math!


thats nice!



but so what.



I'm not going to build a building here xei, I could careless about the math of the golden ratio.

And while you may think you're making yourself look so smart, it just makes you look foolish. Because the point of Sacred Geometry has gone way over your head

the very heart of Sacred Geometry is that everything is related. Everything is connected. Unity. This is the point of Sacred Geometry. This is WHY people study it. You study Sacred Geometry if you are interested in a holistic understanding of our universe.

If someone wants to know the math of the golden ratio, they pull out a math book. If they want to know how the golden ratio is connected to the harmonics of music, Sacred Geometry is better than any math book.

you may freely post your opinion that everything is chance. however, this is not a thread to debate whether things are connected or whether things are chance.

this is instead a thread to discover how things are connected through Sacred Geometry, to gain a holistic knowledge for the mere joy of enrinching your mind. and then when you have this holistic knowledge you can apply it to either a left(scientific) or right(philosophical) brain activity.

Sacred Geometry is NOT left brained (science and mathematics)

Sacred Geometry is NOT right brained (philosophy and religion)

Sacred Geometry is BOTH and NEITHER

There is a left-brained and a right-brained approach to studying Sacred Geometry, both are very different approaches. BOTH ARE EQUALLY VALID.

One asks you to quiet your mind and meditate. One asks you to know your sciences. But BOTH persons ENJOY the holistic feeling that Sacred Geometry has to offer. This wonderfull feeling of unity. They both enjoy it. They both welcome it. Even those who take the left-brain approach would never use chance to describe what they are seeing.

There are however more right brained people studying it than left brained people.

This is not because there is no left brain approach or left brained application of it. But rather our formal education is left brained, so usually left brained people are very happy with formal education and are less likely to turn to alternative studies

The video that I posted is a left brain application of Sacred Geometry

the scientist looks at his geometrical design.......and realizes the design isn't perfect. it's missing two points. he literally adds two new points to his design. By doing so, he is theorizing that these two points are yet to be seen particles.

He even says he is using the Theory of Unification. This is Sacred Geometry.

But YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE GOLDEN RATIO IS.

How can you possibly claim to have knowledge about how the golden ratio connects nature if you DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

You are a completely ignorant person, and even worse, you are willfully so. Everything you say is quite blatantly just regurgitated words, and when somebody actually tries to give you a clue, you shut your mind.

Everything you aspire to be you are not.

Originally Posted by juroara

This Sacred Geometry pattern is called the Egg of Life...Do you know why?


Count the spheres. Seven, with one in the center.



Look familiar?

Ehh... Not willing to burst your bubble here, but there is no such thing as a stage with 7 cells in your development (unless you count IFV with PID). It goes along the powers of 2: 2, 4, 8, 16 etcetera.

This thread made me remember why I never come to this place again. Why can't you just be nice to eachother and stay calm?

This thread is getting quite ugly. Please tone it down a bit. Ease up on the personal attacks. Thanks.

Xei, I do have an understanding of the golden ratio, I also studied it when I was in college. And I found it boring, and I find it really misleading into what Sacred Geometry is all about.

I don't care to memorize formulas or numbers. I don't consider that knowledge to begin with. Just memory. If I needed the exact formula of the golden ratio - I can look it up

golden ratio is not composed of 'numbers'. The numbers that we use still are symbols representing something else. An alien race would have to translate our gibberish to make sense of it

geometry however is the purest and most universal language, needing no translation. For this reason, I personally am not interested in numbers. I am personally interested in pure geometry

and as my personal interest, it is my right to be personally interested in it. and I am not interested at all in math

so again, you don't understand what Sacred Geometry is all about. or how diverse its applications are.

personally I am ONLY interested in the right brain applications of Sacred Geometry, and you don't need math for that