Thread: Weirg 2 part dream 1st post

My guess is that in the first part, searching for certainty which could be what motivated your exploring of the storage building. In the dream, you find certainty in government and in the past. In the end of the first part, the person refers to change (the company doesn't exist anymore) The message from the dream could be that change is okay sometimes, which helped you be more comfortable with uncertainty. The second part could represent your still searching for certainty, not fully realizing the message from the first part. You again find certainty in government and in the past, but the person says what you found isn't important anymore because now that you're more comfortable with uncertainty, you don't need to search for certainty anymore. You can now more fully enjoy the present moment despite its uncertainty.

Thx dophin! That was very Interesting interpretation i must say! I was so wrong on interpretating it and make it so complicated.

Both parts of this dream are positive.

Part 1 --
Entering a “big storage building” through a narrow entrance is reminiscent of the process of birth when one enters the world through the birth canal. However, the dreamer has not entered the real world but has, instead, entered a structure which seems to resemble a warehouse. This building holds commodities such as food and clothing.
• In the real world, the food helps us grow, gives us strength, and is needed to live. In our dreams, food helps us and others to grow psychologically and spiritually. As for the clothing (and possibly other items), they protect the wearer from the elements and reflect the image or face that he shows to the world. Such clothing could represent various skills and abilities of the dreamer that were developed in this or previous lives.
• Another possible meaning is that the “country commodity reserves” represents a rejection of our modern, technologically driven society. This is supported by the reference to the 70’s.
• And lastly, it is possible that this dream is a warning to the dreamer about the future when such items are going to be difficult to find.

I’m not sure why the items are from the 70’s. Perhaps the dreamer was born in the 70’s, or the 70’s could have some special significance (that may not be obvious to the dreamer).

Part 2 –-
The dreamer is on a mountain. Being on a mountain can have several possible meanings: It may be a test of strength and determination of the dreamer, it may be a symbolic quest for a more elevated/spiritual existence, or it may refer to the dreamer’s exploration of his dreams.
FYI – the rock wall of the mountain is presumably made of a hard rock such as granite. In our dreams, the hardest rocks/stones are symbolic of the more spiritual while softer stones, such as limestone, symbolize the physical (i.e., the non-spiritual).

However, in this dream there is no climbing or exploring of the mountain. The dreamer is on the mountain and is even looking into the mountain. Therefore, it is not unreasonable that the mountain represents the Self. Using the theories of Carl Jung, the Self, which is the center of the psyche, could be called the ultimate archetype. Here are a few clarifying bits from https://antilogicalism.com/wp-conten...is-symbols.pdf :
• “The Self can be defined as an inner guiding factor that is different from the conscious personality and that can be grasped only through the investigation of one's own dreams. These show it to be the regulating center that brings about a constant extension and maturing of the personality. But this larger, more nearly total aspect of the psyche appears first as merely an inborn possibility. It may emerge very slightly, or it may develop relatively completely during one's lifetime. How far it develops depends on whether or not the ego is willing to listen to the messages of the Self.“ p162
• “If an individual has wrestled seriously enough and long enough with the anima (or animus) problem so that he, or she, is no longer partially identified with it, the unconscious again changes its dominant character and appears in a new symbolic form, representing the Self, the innermost nucleus of the psyche. In the dreams of a woman this center is usually personified as a superior female figure — a priestess, sorceress, earth mother, or goddess of nature or love. In the case of a man, it manifests itself as a masculine initiator and guardian (an Indian guru), a wise old man, a spirit of nature, and so forth.” p196
• “The Self usually appears in dreams at crucial times in the dreamer’s life — turning points when his basic attitudes and whole way of life are changing. The change itself is often symbolized by the action of crossing water.” P198
• “The actual process of individuation -- the conscious coming-to-terms with one's own inner center (psychic nucleus) or Self — generally begins with a wounding of the personality and the suffering that accompanies it. This initial shock amounts to a sort of "call," although it is not often recognized as such. On the contrary, the ego feels hampered in its will or its desire and usually projects the obstruction on to something external.” p166
• My Comment -- The Self is the ultimate archetype. It often appears in our dreams as an object, shape, animal, or a person. (Note: I do not believe that a tree or other plant is usually a symbol of the Self. This is because the plant grows and develops over time while the Self is typically fixed and unchanging – like a stone.) The Self may show itself as a person, especially an older person, or it may show itself as a creature that has no real-world counterpart. Additionally, the Self is almost always distant and aloof. Man and His Symbols, https://antilogicalism.com/wp-conten...is-symbols.pdf, page 199 has a painting that an artist had of the Self that he saw in a dream.

The number of items as well as the holes in the rock wall may be significant. For example, the number four or its multiples – especially 16 – can be a reference to wholeness and the individuation process. More specifically,
• “… groups of four, are universal religious symbols.” P21
• “… four functional types correspond to the obvious means by which consciousness obtains its orientation to experience.” P61 These four functions are thought, feeling, intuition, and sensation – which is the source of the Myers-Briggs typology.
• “The number four, a symbol of wholeness and completeness, represents an archetype that Dr. Jung has discussed at length in his writings.” P293-294
• “The actual process of individuation the conscious coming-to-terms with one's own inner center (psychic nucleus) or Self — generally begins with a wounding of the personality and the suffering that accompanies it. This initial shock amounts to a sort of "call," although it is not often recognized as such. On the contrary, the ego feels hampered in its will or its desire and usually projects the obstruction on to something external.” p166

There was a dream woman who said that the books etc. were not important. It is probably more accurate to say that they were less important than the dreamer’s being on the mountain. This is consistent with the mountain being a symbol of the Self.
But, what about this woman?

Once again, using the ideas of Jung, the woman is probably a symbol of the dreamer’s anima. The anima is always a woman is only seen in the dreams of men. The anima is an archetype, and, like all archetypes, is a product of the collective unconscious. Although we can never have a complete understanding of an archetype, or any dream that contains an archetype, we can still have some understanding of its meaning.

The anima has the potential of going through four stages of development.
• “The first stage is best symbolized by the figure of Eve, which represents purely instinctual and biological relations.” P185 At this stage, the anima sometimes appears as a woman of another race.
• “The second can be seen in Faust's Helen: She personifies a romantic and aesthetic level that is. however, still characterized by sexual elements.” P185 At this stage, the anima is typically young and attractive.
• “The third is represented, for instance, by the Virgin Mary a figure who raises love eros to the heights of spiritual devotion.” P185 Other images include a nun or a “good woman” – perhaps a Quaker woman.
• “The fourth type is symbolized by Sapientia, wisdom transcending even the most holy and the most pure. Of this another symbol is the Shulamite in the Song of Solomon.” p185 “Thus the anima becomes again what she originally was — the "woman within," who conveys the vital messages of the Self.” P188

In our dreams, the names and descriptions of people, places and such can be a big help when interpretating a dream.
• For example, if the mountain was the Jungfrau, a “well-known Swiss peak” https://www.britannica.com/place/Jun...in-Switzerland, this is probably meaningful.
• For another example, if the name of an anima is Sophia, she is probably at the fourth stage.
• Many of our dream archetypes will be religious or pagan symbols. Thus, even if we do not know the name of the anima, we can sometimes identify her if we have a description of her. This would include such things as her hair, clothing, weapons (or other objects) and any animal companions. A goddess is usually a symbol of the anima at the fourth stage of development.

The people “on lower level of hill,” are either additional human archetypes or they are spiritual beings who are pleased with the dreamer’s development. If they are archetypes, they know that the growth/development of the dreamer would also help them to progress as well.

Hope this helps and is not too confusing.
If you have any questions, be sure to get back with me.
Lugus

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Thanx you very much Lugus for all your effort! Pro analyse! Im tired to understand everything but tomorow i will read twice Im close to 70's, i was born in 84. Cheers