Thread: Blocks. And lucid dreaming in a normal dream?? Any help appreciated!

No, I think you're posting in the right place. If you're wanting to talk about dream control anyway. You've just got me a bit confused is all!

And now I think I get what you mean about nested identities - yes, we do put on different traits when talking to different people or in different situations. I just consider that plasticity though - or flexibility.

Thanks for explaining that you're a natural lucid dreamer who's not familiar with the established terminology - that explains a lot! And now I understand better where you're coming from. Lol yeah, you stumbled into a big landmine here when you mentioned anything relating to a 'dream within a dream', since that's an idea promoted by Inception that has a lot of newcomers all excited but that really isn't how dreams work (at least not in the way Inception shows it).

I also think I'm starting to understand what you're getting at with letting yourself go in order to get control (if that's how you said it - sorry if I butchered that!). You were referring to the techniques you mentioned, such as bringing the treetops to you rather than yourself to the treetops, right? Ok, I understand then. I suppose that is the ego getting in the way as you say - focusing on your 'self' rather than on the environment. But the thing to keep in mind is that, unlike in the waking world, everything in a dream is you. In waking life of course we can't help but filter everything through our own biases and experiences, but in dreaming it's a bit different. Everything is literally created from our own biases, memories, emotions, thoughts, etc. So in effect the entire dream is you - not just your dream body (which sometimes isn't even there or changes or is seen in third person). The tree - the sun - the universe - it's all you. Or at least it's all created by you.

But yes, I do think it's a good idea to concentrate on bringing the treetops to you rather than the other way around. Not that I've been lucid enough times to be able to try that yet mind you!

Oh, and if you're interested in researching lucidity - the best place to start (other than DV of course) is the book Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge. Best book written on the subject.