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The secret is like,

It works!

Wow. I would very much like to meet your neice. Psychic and paranormal things fascinate me, but scare me to death. I'd give anything to just talk to her, to know what it's like. If I were you, I'd pay close attention to her. Maybe you even have a little bit of a paranormal magnet in you. I mean, i doubt anyone else has heard that scream but you and her. did your sister hear it? maybe you and your neice have like a psychic connection, you know? Genetics, maybe. Who really knows? Spend time with her, ask her about everything she's experienced. Maybe even ask her if she could teach you how to do it. Let her show you things. But wow. What I wouldn't do to be in your situation. I would sooner sell my soul to be like your neice. She's quite blessed. Don't let her stray from you. Stay close. She's special.

Originally Posted by hopelessaspielover

Wow. I would very much like to meet your neice. Psychic and paranormal things fascinate me, but scare me to death. I'd give anything to just talk to her, to know what it's like. If I were you, I'd pay close attention to her. Maybe you even have a little bit of a paranormal magnet in you. I mean, i doubt anyone else has heard that scream but you and her. did your sister hear it? maybe you and your neice have like a psychic connection, you know? Genetics, maybe. Who really knows? Spend time with her, ask her about everything she's experienced. Maybe even ask her if she could teach you how to do it. Let her show you things. But wow. What I wouldn't do to be in your situation. I would sooner sell my soul to be like your neice. She's quite blessed. Don't let her stray from you. Stay close. She's special.

Wrong thread! XP

I think "The Secret" is the dumbest thing ever. My friend actually thinks it works. She is all " I already won the lottery, because I thought I did!" I'm like "w/e bitch" she didn't win

Lulz, well it always works for me! Can you say "Free Wii?"

Originally Posted by Mini Man56

Lulz, well it always works for me! Can you say "Free Wii?"

And my town was invaded by Hooters girls.

Originally Posted by puppycat

I think "The Secret" is the dumbest thing ever. My friend actually thinks it works. She is all " I already won the lottery, because I thought I did!" I'm like "w/e bitch" she didn't win

I met someone in the bar like that the other day.

Me and a friend were sitting around discussing how to resist and protest against unfair government regulations and she starts saying that we're not free because we don't think ourselves free.

She, however, is apparently completely free despite believing that it is wrong to physically do anything to prevent injustice, poverty, inequality, etc. She said the most important thing is to be aware of problems and send good energy towards solving them.

Sigh.

I tried this once but she turned out to be ugly.

the problem I see with this thread is the same as all the others

people still don't understand what the LOA is, how its supposed to work, how you are supposed to make it work for yourself, how it only works for YOURSELF, not for others *you can not LOA a better world for example, only a better life for yourself*

the LOA is a very meditative process, that can only change the outcome for YOU. and why so many practitioners fail at it, its process is alien to westerners!

one of the most important things in the LOA is to ask what you want. but this is one of the most difficult things actually. people only think they know what they want in their life, but in actuality the things they thought they want they don't really want. so part of the reason why people are miserable is because they don't know what they want in life!!!

a lot of people who took the LOA seriously will tell you it forced them to understand them self, and every irrational doubt and fear they carry through life, that they beforehand didn't realize they were carrying

here is a common fear/doubt that lots of poor people carry "sigh, I can't get a better job" "no one is going to hire me"

or even, the irrational fear/doubt I was carrying that the LOA brought to my attention was "I can't leave this job!". So on the plus side, the LOA helps you do some soul-searching.

the LOA teaches the importance of your emotions as a form of energy. The importance of remaining positive, firm and strong. This doesn't mean giddy up trippy happy when there is real suffering, or coming off as ignorant. Real positive emotion is more than being happy, it is the ultimate self control over your own emotions. Some people are naturally like this, and thus they are successful in life. but when normal people practice the LOA seriously, they can see just how much throughout the day they are carrying negative emotions. Which, does nothing good for them. Therefore their negative emotions are irrational.

Can you think yourself free apachama? Freedom is first and foremost a construct of the mind. The LOA rides on the belief that everything is energy. EVERYTHING. To LOA believers, sending out energy can influence the overall consciousness of man. Because consciousness is also energy.

We have seen a similar phenomenon happen when a generation grows up with a particular type of music, their values are different than their parents. Music is energy. And that energy can, and does, influence how we feel and think.

Any change, even changing the government and reclaiming freedom MUST FIRST HAPPEN ON A MENTAL LEVEL. If no one thinks, "Things have to change" then things don't change. If no one believes things will change, then everyone doubts and gives up and, NOTHING CHANGES. So yes change, must first happen with your own thoughts.

Here are two scenarios. Imagine a world where no one believes in a happier future. That the future will be dull, boring, miserable and meaningless. How does this affect peoples behaviors?? How does this affect the way people treat each other?

Look at americans, who think their nation will always be as it is - a fake democracy. Has this not made americans..APATHETIC AND LAZY?? Since they don't think things will change, they do nothing.

You don't believe. NOTHING HAPPENS. Believing is the first step to change. But the LOA does teach the idea that thoughts go out into the universe, return as a manifested outcome. OUTCOME. That outcome can mean - a physical activity that you commit.

The LOA rides on the belief that everything is energy. That thoughts create/attract. But no where in the LOA does it say this process is magical, or instant. Actually in the Secret they describe your thoughts, a form of energy, traveling out into the universe before it returns back to you as a materialized outcome. They don't go far into it, but create an image that time is involved. As well as the laws of physics. When you listen to the idea of your thoughts returning back to you as an outcome, it becomes a karmic image. Yet I don't see anyone laughing at the idea of karma.

the LOA teaches part of the reason why we don't think our thoughts create is because our thoughts are constantly conflicting with each other. Like multiple stones being tossed into a pool. Their ripples cancel each other out and you get nothing distinguishable. Just an indistinguishable mess.

That's why the LOA is actually fairly meditative.

You have to know yourself, focus, remain positive, have intent, believe, and then let-go of all irrational fears and doubts.

things westerners aren't brought up doing.

Again, it has to do with energy more than you just thinking something in your head. If you think "I have money" but are actually feeling down in the dumps, then your emotion of lack is what is sent out to the universe. Not the words in our head, "I have money". The outcome as the LOA describes is, you get lack. Words are just monkey sounds. Its the pure wordless thought that really matters.

Why do LOA practitioners talk in the present form? One of the obstacles, actually the largest obstacle is doubt. Just like on this forum we teach if you doubt you can have a lucid dream, your probably won't. Or if you doubt you can have control in a lucid dream, then you don't - the same applies.

One way to counter-act doubt is to role-play a little. Imagine it. Daydream it. They are trying to convince themselves that they have these things right now, to overcome the doubt that they can not have these things. Otherwise they constantly see it in some distant non-existent future. I know it comes off as silly to others, but its only because we are such a doubt based society that the LOA has had to teach this technique.

despite what you think about the LOA....everything is energy

but its absolutely understandable if you don't agree with the mystical view of the science that thoughts manifest/return/attract things onto you. but the practice will at least give you added focus on life, especially if you feel lost.

The law of attraction works so good, I have suspicions that all our minds are somehow connected. Or I'm just extremely good at applying the law.. but sometimes it seems like the world is how I want it to be. Like I'm dreaming IRL... and we all share this dream and we all can exert control over this dream, not only on the physical plane, but also on the mental plane. It's really weird and it goes against everything I ever believed in, but I'm very eager to find out weather my suspicions are correct or not.

Another explanation would be, that our minds being connected is only an illusion coming out of the fact that all our subconscious minds work the exact same way, resulting in those incredibly coincidences, which aren't really coincidences, but just synchronized minds.

No matter what the explanation is, both explanations result in the law of attraction working like magic.




Practicle example of the law of attraction: Want to be confident? Concentrate all your thoughts on confidence, and anything that has to do with confidence will be attracted to you.

On the mental plane: In your own head, all thoughts related to confidence will resonate with your focus on confidence, and after enough meditation on the thought confidence you will actually reach the state of mind of being confident. (similar to brainstorming, but only focused on one topic). Also, your brain will automatically start to filter out anything that has to do with confidence.. behavior of other people acting confident, stuff you see on TV that has to do with confidence, it will all get filtered out for you.

On the physical plane: When you have reached the state of mind of being confident, your body will reflect this state of mind through it's body language.

On the mental plane again: When people see your body language, their subconscious will decide you are confident. And treat you like confident, and this will reinforce your confidence.

On the physical plane: Other people who are confident will feel attracted to you. Like attracts like. Hanging out with people who are confident, will reinforce your confidence, once again.


See how powerful the law of attraction is, even without direct action? The better your meditation skills (the ability to focus your attention on one thought), the better this law of attraction works. The law of attraction also works for inducing lucid dreams.

The people who understand the law of attraction believe in it.
The people who don't understand the law of attraction, don't believe in it. As simple as that.

You know, I heard someone read the most choice and famous passages from the Secret to me and I wasn't surprised. the idea certainly isn't new. Someone also showed me parrallel passages to each qoute in the Bible saying basically 'the same thing.' You can also find similar themes in the Rig Vedas, (Hindu book,) even some in the Torah. It's not new or revolutionary. Men have known about this for millenias...

Although different religions have different logic and reasons behind the energy idea.

Oh no not one of these threads again *sigh* Unbelievable how easy people will fall for these kind of things.... and we live in 2008!

The secret is not really a secret or new.

Stand in the middle of a field with no human contact and focus on a Ford Explorer for free.


It won't come.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

The law of attraction works so good, I have suspicions that all our minds are somehow connected. Or I'm just extremely good at applying the law.. but sometimes it seems like the world is how I want it to be. Like I'm dreaming IRL... and we all share this dream and we all can exert control over this dream, not only on the physical plane, but also on the mental plane. It's really weird and it goes against everything I ever believed in, but I'm very eager to find out weather my suspicions are correct or not.

Another explanation would be, that our minds being connected is only an illusion coming out of the fact that all our subconscious minds work the exact same way, resulting in those incredibly coincidences, which aren't really coincidences, but just synchronized minds.

No matter what the explanation is, both explanations result in the law of attraction working like magic.




Practicle example of the law of attraction: Want to be confident? Concentrate all your thoughts on confidence, and anything that has to do with confidence will be attracted to you.

On the mental plane: In your own head, all thoughts related to confidence will resonate with your focus on confidence, and after enough meditation on the thought confidence you will actually reach the state of mind of being confident. (similar to brainstorming, but only focused on one topic). Also, your brain will automatically start to filter out anything that has to do with confidence.. behavior of other people acting confident, stuff you see on TV that has to do with confidence, it will all get filtered out for you.

On the physical plane: When you have reached the state of mind of being confident, your body will reflect this state of mind through it's body language.

On the mental plane again: When people see your body language, their subconscious will decide you are confident. And treat you like confident, and this will reinforce your confidence.

On the physical plane: Other people who are confident will feel attracted to you. Like attracts like. Hanging out with people who are confident, will reinforce your confidence, once again.


See how powerful the law of attraction is, even without direct action? The better your meditation skills (the ability to focus your attention on one thought), the better this law of attraction works. The law of attraction also works for inducing lucid dreams.

The people who understand the law of attraction believe in it.
The people who don't understand the law of attraction, don't believe in it. As simple as that.

I understand this post, and fully agree with it.

I dont know enough about the rest of the LOA to make any judgement yet though.

Originally Posted by Omicron

Stand in the middle of a field with no human contact and focus on a Ford Explorer for free.


It won't come.

and??

neither the secret or loa holds the idea that things magically appear out of no where. that is pure thought manifestation. loa is slightly different. time is still relevant and so is a physical event.

One big problem I have with this: It uses the obvious and tries to claim to be a "secret." Of course, if you want to be more confident, and believe you are more confident, you will be more confident. Anyone can do that.

Originally Posted by juroara

and??

neither the secret or loa holds the idea that things magically appear out of no where. that is pure thought manifestation. loa is slightly different. time is still relevant and so is a physical event.

Who said anything about it appearing out of no where? Someone could just drive it there.

Originally Posted by juroara

the problem I see with this thread is the same as all the others

people still don't understand what the LOA is, how its supposed to work, how you are supposed to make it work for yourself, how it only works for YOURSELF, not for others *you can not LOA a better world for example, only a better life for yourself*

Yes you can work it on other people. You mentioned strong emotions, well those affect people very strongly.

You people want to know exactly how it works? Well it's exactly like dream control. I've come up with four simple rules on how dream control works, and they work in the waking world as well. This is the secret behind the secret: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=57283

It's a work in progress, I'm still learning as I go.