Thread: a few thoughts about demons

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Originally Posted by shadowofwind

I don't mean that we're not responsible for our own anger, that its not 'ours'. What I mean is that the 'me' in 'mine' is not strictly personal, there's a collective aspect to it. When we empathize with someone, we are them a little bit, and we affect each other with our passions and our thoughts. We 'possess' each other a little bit, its a part of what we are as humans, even though its not something that can be seen or measured with lab instruments.

Now, I do not know if you had in mind what i have when you wrote 'possess' but i have a particulair thing in mind.

I've often noticed voices of other people echoing through my mind while falling asleep. People i've had extensive conversations on that day keep talking in my head long after i have said goodbyes. I mentioned this to an old roomie of mine and he coined up the term 'Echoes', he seemed to know exactly what i was talking about.

I always wondered what these voices where, and i came to the conclusion that it is a sort of possessing of other's personality traits. When in conversation with other people i have noticed talking in the manner of tone like someone whose voice echoed through my mind just the other week.

We have to be careful not to become possessed by 'bad' personality traits. Since these things can happen. And since most people don't understand by themselves in what mechanism they are being possessed. Then dreams are just the perfect way to show that this is happening by way of anology. What force is guiding the dream remains to be a question. And i particularly wonder if there's a difference in symbolism when involved in a lucid dream rather than ordinary dream/nightmares.

Because, i do tend to believe demons exist as external sources of energy that have nothing to do with oneself. Possession is a different story because i believe negative (or positive) external entities have the ability to possess one's body and even dream world. I seek to attain lucidity to investigate this theory more in-depth but so far i haven't booked much success.

Hello Dthoughts,

I am new to this forum but I am really happy to be here and read about other people who unusual experience things. Other places people would call you weird and whacky. So thanks for posting about your experience. Anyway, I also hear voices sometimes in my dreams and meditation. In dreams, it's usually the following night. For instance if I have been in the company of people talking a certain language then I may hear them chatter in the same language in the dream. It's not really a dream. Not sure how to explain it because nothing is going on as in a regular dream. It's just empty space and then the voices. It's no mumbling either - I can clearly hear every word. I think it's just our psychic part of the mind practicing and processing what's been taking in recently. Of course, I have no experience with negative energy being very close to me because I always protect myself. For me, it's always been helpful to hear voices. That's how I get certain information too. And because I am protected I know the source is of the Light and I can trust the information.

Boson

Heya, this forum helped me a lot. I used to seek out weird experiences. And i got them, eventually. With the help from people on this forum and others. It gave me soo much to think about. Negative energy is what's bugging me lately, i have had some weird experiences with dark energies which has gotten me all jacked up and feeling weird. I have a hard time discerning "good" from "evil" at this point. It would be nice to be able to protect myself from the Negative so i am sure that whatever i meet is actually good and positive. Any ideas?

About voices, Robert Monroe in his book Far Journeys coined up the term: M-Band noise or M-Band. (M-Band being some kind of trail of all human thoughts. M-band noise are all scattered and pointless human thoughts) Something to that extend if i recall correctly. Weird enough, i've had Voices come with images on rare occasion. I used to be a little more skilled in dreaming and sometimes in deep meditation i would be able to call in images, especially when stoned (Duhh, weed is a mild psychedelic). Loads of times sober though. Voices at one time came in the form of 2 female classmates in school and would continuously say things directed at me without pauze. I would also see their faces and appearance kind of floating in my visual field.

I used to be rather psychic. Don't know how else to explain. As i was waking up one time i hallucinated seeing a friend in lotus position meditating and floating on the right of my 'mindspace'. Coincidentally he used to meditate every day at around 10:00 and it was roughly 10:00 AM when i woke up so...

As for voices, ONE time. Just once, i heared a little line in a voice i did not recognize and it said: "Wow, so many humans out here!"

Btw, i completely agree " I think it's just our psychic part of the mind practicing and processing what's been taking in recently."

Subconsciously we pick up on a lot more and in dreams i think it can build up to conclusions. Hence as an example of a symbolic message something could be presented to you in a dream in which a demon signifies a 'bad' influence on your psyche.

Hi Dthoughts,

I don't really know much about the theory or terminology about lucid dreaming so all I write about is from personal experience. You asked for how to protect yourself from negative energy. So I can only tell you what works for me. First off, you would need to have a focal point where you keep your mind and heart when you do the protection. This point of reference should be the highest ideal you have in your mind of the purest most divine Light or entity you have. No need to be religious for this to work, but if you believe in God or Jesus or Angels etc, then you have a good focus of high energy. The purer your thoughts and heart is the stronger your protection will be. You can either visualize a white bubble around you, but just imagine it in the color white is not enough. You have to feel it that it's really of the Divine that is surrounding you. Some people have a hard time to visualize. You may just invoke the same verbally in your mind, to be protected by the Divine Light (or any other words you prefer with the same high vibration). With the same Light you can abolish negative energy in your living space. I hope this helps a little.

Boson