This is my first post here, I was wondering if you can Astral project/OBE straight from going to bed? I know you can't WILD unless you wake up early or take a nap.. but what about astral projecting? They are relatively the same process are they not? Relaxing until you may or may not reach SP and then going into lucidity? ^.^ I am just looking forwards to going to bed and dreaming and waking up to try again and WILD at 3 am... but I would like it even more if I could just astral project straight from the start of going to sleep or at least attempt.

When I was attempting to WILD the night before last I had an insane sensation. I dont know how to say it but when it was happening I was trying to make myself unafraid of it so I thought of it as me being ironman and the sensation was the air rushing past me and my body moving through air at super high speed so it ended up being kind of cool. I had some hypnagogic imagery after that but cant remember anything because I fell asleep... Was I close to entering the dream state?

People that astral project/wild say they can just separate their dream body from their real body but how do you know when to do this? and how do you move without actually moving? Will I have a full dream vision when I successfully astral project or WILD? gah it is so hard to put what is in your mind in typing on here, sorry if I make no sense I just have lots of questions and am very eager to lucid dream or astral project.