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    Thread: My way of becoming lucid (coffee, exercise, reversed WBTB)

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      Hello Terrasoul very interesting stuff to read! I like your wbtb timing - i will try your method. Now about caffeine - caffeine is NREM sleep supressor. That means when you take it, it will promote REM sleep and wont let you go in deep sleep (if you had enough deep sleep before and your body is not exhausted). Basicaly it will reduce or kill the NREM gab between wakefullnes and REM phase. I did experiments with caffeine and it worked very well, if you know its function and how to use it. The hard part is dosage and timing. Dosage relies on your desensitization. One cup of caffeine stays in you body long time that people usually dont realise -

      one cup off coffe 40mg (approx)

      5 hours - 20 mg / 50%
      10 hours - 10 mg / 25%
      15 hours - 5 mg / 13%
      20 hours - 3 mg / 6%
      25 hours - 1 mg / 3%
      30 hours - 1 mg / 1%
      35 hours - 0 mg / 0%

      and to work again it is recommended to stay away from used substance at least the same time you were on it. Many people drink caffine every day (tea, coffee, fizzy drinks some food and so on) and did realise that. That's why it is so hard to calculate how much to take to fall asleep again. Your method should be better because your body will strive to sleep again, because of just on hour prior sleep. For me the dosage is usualy few sips of coke or green tea works awesome.

      Nicotine is another story... It works miraculously when properly used for induction especially combination with Galantamine, but it can lead to long term desensitization which is bad.

      Also what i like is your connection with exercise and sleep. I think exercise promotes deep sleep in first part of sleeping.

      I started this thread https://www.dreamviews.com/lucid-aid...ment-here.html long ago so you can check some experiments or even add your interresting results if you like
      Last edited by Nfri; 06-06-2018 at 05:25 AM.
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