Thread: Testing a SSILD variation: Continously staring forward

Originally Posted by dolphin

No problems on the late post, Alex. Sorry you got a headache!

Speaking of that, if constantly staring becomes too much of a headache for me in terms of lack of results (0 LDs for more than a couple of days), I have a backup technique in place that I'll try instead. This moves away from SSILD, though.

I'm thinking that getting in the habit of identifying changes while falling asleep might be an effective technique. By changes I mean changes in things like location, thought pattern, emotion, sensation, or anything else. A dream is a change so maybe if one got in the habit of identifying changes in general, he or she would get in the habit of identifying dreams as well. I haven't tried this out yet, by trying it out is my backup plan at the moment is constantly staring isn't right for me, so maybe you guys can try that if staring just gives you a headache.

I was tracking dynamic situations a while back, didn't follow through with it, though. I did it during the day. I tried to find times where I lost awareness/lucidity and found those were usually times of physical or "mental" motion requiring lots of attention, like boarding/exiting public transportation, conversation (mentally dynamic), etc.

The thing is with all these approaches ("if I could only do XYZ, I'd be lucid a lot"), if you can train yourself to do the technique and associate it with the thought of dreaming, it doesn't really matter what the technique is (tracking changes, etc.). I think "simply" inducing one particular thought that you closely associate with dreaming (like Hukif's gravity all-day-RC) until it starts happening in dreams would be a holy grail. If I could only remember to do an RC while dreaming, that's all I'd need, and that seems much simpler to do than tracking changes/dynamic situations. Yet it's amazingly difficult in practice.

On the OP, people who are slow to sleep need to remember to stay relaxed. It took me a while to figure out how to do the visual phase of SSILD without tensing my eyes, it takes practice.

The OP sounds a lot like your "pay attention to the night" approach.

edit: I find myself doing something like this. I don't find the hearing and body phases of SSILD very useful. But I find that "projecting my mind forwards out along my path of vision" sometimes works.