Thread: Lucid Dreaming in Tough Conditions - Need Advice

Do you have any natural wakes during the night? You can use those as mini wbtbs and accomodate pretty much all of the induction techs there. Consistency is the key. If you do your practices as often as possible, lds will follow.

Also, don't forget you can also do (or better to say should do in addition to your night practices) the daytime practices - RCs, ada, mindfulness, meditation, visualization, day dreaming or simply thinking and planning for your next ld.

I've never really woken up during the night, I'm a hard sleeper. I'm actually following the DJ/RC route, as I've also mentioned in the introduction thread. I've been following them for 2 years, then came the 3 year break, now I'm back into it, but it just feels like I'll hit the same dead end again. What really bugs me is that there's no real action you seem to be able to do -before- going to sleep - WILD would yield underwhelming results and best, SSILD inventors straight up claim no tech will work before going to bed, and all you can do it is mantra. That's... for me personally, that's a bit of a let-down. Is there anything do with that at all?

MILD is just as good an option as WILD. Go for it!

Well, you can still do MILD before bed. Go over your last dream and imagine yourself becoming lucid and again, practice it frequently. Don't just give up if you don't see immediate results.

I know dream incubation works whether we want it or not. Things we do during the day, or thoughts we have before going to bed will manifest in dreams. So, take advantage of this and incubate your dreams consciously.

About the natural wakes, if you want to change your habits, you must first have the desire to do so. The simplest thing would be to repeat to yourself that you are aware of your natural wakes. Gradually, you may catch yourself waking up in the middle of the night, right after a REM cycle is over. Waking up can also be faciliated by drinking a bit of water before bed.

Incubation, huh... Haven't given it much thought yet, to be honest. I was expecting old methods to have a boost after a break this long, since I've heard quite a few success stories like that, but it looks like I'll really have to start anew with some new techniques that that will require time to get down... Ugh. And they said LD is easy.

Grumbling aside, thanks for the solid advice so far! I'll try and do this stuff.

Don't give up on learning to notice the little wakings during the night without actually trying. I never noticed them before I set intention to do so, and found that since I *really* *really* wanted to notice them so I could recall more dreams, it was not hard at all to do so. If you fall back asleep really easily then you focus on learning micro-WBTBs: notice your waking, recall any dreams if you want to, and then "grab some awareness" and head right back to sleep (perhaps with a mantra). It's something to try. (noticing the wakings gives you a chance for MILD/WILD as well, and since you may not be able to use an alarm to wake up, setting intention is the best way to do that).

Other than that, a straightforward DILD program with a strong emphasis on building daytime awareness (this can take time so don't give up on it!) may be your best bet.

For the noisy environment: earplugs, and spend serious effort learning to relax our mind and body, even in the face of distractions, may help.

You may want to try out naps, too, some people have great luck with LDs during nap time.

Originally Posted by DeepestLore

WBTB, WILDs, SSILD, WTFLMAOs... all good and nice and smooth. Provided one thing: the possibility to wake up at night.

Well, some of us don't have that luxury. Sharing the bedroom, noisy environs, can't go to sleep early, alarm clock is a prerequisite for a successful day, all those seem to be a major hit to both your LD life and motivation.

Well, what are we to do? Just work MILD into the ground? Surely there's some other method. Please share.

When I first started into WILDing. Those familiar sounds of people shuffling about helped me transition from awake to lucidity. It was mostly a time gauge on when they would do certain things to what part of the cycle I would be on.