How i get into lucid dream.(detailed good)might help out new guys

[wasanga]

iv only tried "WILD" attempts and at the beginning i didn't know wth i was doing lol.but there's really not much to it...SERIOUSLY not much to it. in the beginning when you first try it couple times you might not stay concentrating or aware and end up falling asleep. Get scared when you start going into sleep paralysis and quickly start moving to shrug it away. or WHEN YOU DO MAKE IT! and stick with it all the way.after all the images have passed and things (sometimes ppl dont see images all the time*hallucinating*) you jst end up seeing darkness then wake up?? Or simply just attempt to wild and wake up knowing you didnt stay aware lol WELL! my first WILD attmpets were very scary to me.my first one i heard a man scream and first thing that came to mind was that he sounded like he was being burned.it got so loud and when i tried to move i wouldnt!!! but in the end i ended up moving out of it.and didnt try them for awhile. another was that my whole body got numb or tingly (even my testys haha.felt weird tho i didnt like it.no guy likes numb testicles) then i felt a chill going through my whole body.like when you get i guess"goosebumps" ??? and at the same time i heard wind roaring and it was just awesome.but i didn't enter a dream at that time.i got to excited. Another time in sleep paralysis i felt literally my freaking body falling through the bed.and not just a straight fall but like.falling left and right like how a paper flows side to side when it falls.that same way!!!! WILD is to enter a dream while going to sleep. this is all i do. Lay down in bed and well...try to go to sleep! just relax!! imagin something you wanna do like for example i imagin my self tricking on the park i go to or on open gyms i go to. Whatever it is your visualizing make sure to feel the stuff around it too.if u touch a wall try to feel it also like think about how it feels.if is rough or whatever. After awhile you might get uncomfortable(thats why its good to stretch before goin to bed!)and wanna move.if you do.just move.BUT SLOWLY and lay back down in a better position. Getting itchy??well hold it!!!! youll start getting itchy in random places of your body just hold it!!---this happens almost everytime to me okay you should really be getting into whatever it was your visualizing and almost feeling like your there for real. OR you might start seeing wierd stuff like glowy lights and thing slike that.when this happens to me i already KNOW whats next. sleep paralysis!! youll start getting tingly everywhere all numb.theres no other way to say this but.DONT PUSSY OUT after you've gotten this far. but if you do get out of it.atleast you now know how it feels to get there and your now closer to getting into a good WILD.and atleast u attempted it!! this is the part where you might litteraly start feeling things/hearing things.Keep your eyes close!!. Things can get really scary here but just remember that it will go away in like 10-15seconds about when the sounds end i start seeing crazy lights sometimes or differnt images sometimes metal balls counting down with a number in them like a bomb lol at this point!!! when everything is like at its strongest.start visualizing something and if you start seeing seomthing else other than what you want,just go along with that!! imagine your in there and feel for anything around there. EXAMPLE-ur trying to imagin urself practicin backflips on grass but what you keep seeing is cement floor then it turns oout ur in a castle looking place.so dont force it just go along with what you get. well theres always little things i can say here and there lol.but thats it!!!!! lay down on your bed. visualize something. dont move. body gets numb. dont chicken out. --its not scary everytime sometimes i found most of them awesome cause i heard some characters from a game i used to play "left 4 dead" and knew it was from there so didnt scare me. most ppl start off crappy.i sometimes went weeks without doing it but once u get it like 3 nights in a row thats it. most iv done is 3 wilds in 1 night and its just awesome that you can actually GO INSIDE A DREAM dont get discouraged and if anyone reads this!!! i think everyone should give freerunning(parkour/tricking together) a try lol

[greatwork]

I got to the borderline sleep paralysis point, no auditory hallucinations or images, just the feeling that with every breath i was sinking deeper and deeper. weird feelings throughout my body too, uncontrollable twitchiness. my question is, do you do this before you've begun your night's sleep, or in the middle of the night sometime after you've caught a few hours?

[wasanga]

i go for it when ima go to sleep normally at night. but if u go to sleep normally and wake up later at night and try to wild it its always worked on me. easier to get into a wild when first sleep but if wake in middle of night and sleep again.its like youll get into it with wild for sure

[lotsofface]

NO. WILDS only work when you are in the middle of your REM cycle. So do this when you first wake up in the morning, because although you may not realize it, most people wake up after every dream and then fall back asleep. That's when you want to do your WILD. It won't work when you first go to bed because it takes literally hours for your body to enter a REM cycle.

[greatwork]

That makes sense, but he is talking about consciously creating his dreams by thinking about specific things in order to transition from wake to LD. Is it necessary to be in REM cycle? Who here has had success with an LD after attempting a WILD when first going to bed at night, and how would that compare to an LD that you step into during REM cycle of late-night/morning sleep?

[wasanga]

iv been able to go into a wild when i first sleep but it does takes longer.(depends how sleepy u are i guess i dunno lol)but thats how i always try to going into it first in the middle of the night it happens way faster.Not as fast in the morning for me.

[wasanga]

iv been able to go into a wild when i first sleep but it does takes longer.(depends how sleepy u are i guess i dunno lol)but thats how i always try to going into it first in the middle of the night it happens way faster.Not as fast in the morning for me.

[atkins513]

Anyone who has had success with LDing will tell you that it is NEAR impossible at night time without any sleep.. You will have about 95 percent better success after about 5 hours of sleep.. Sometimes people can manage to actually get it to work before bed, but thats the 5 percent we are talking about, and the reasoning for this is because these people usually don't get full nights of sleep and are their body is anxiously awaiting the rem period. This is rare but this is the reasoning behind why it does work for some people.. but let me tell you.. it is very rare.. if you are attempting to ld, do not waste time trying it at night before bed.. you need REM to dream, and its very light at this time.. also your rem periods are much longer after 5 hours of sleep, so if you do manage to LD at night time, it will be very short compared to after 5 hours of sleep.. trust me.. just don't waste your time at night, its not worth it. Gary

[greatwork]

atkins, thank you very much. I will set my alarm for about 5 hours after i fall asleep tonight and give it a shot.

[atkins513]

Awesome, and please let me know how it goes.. I also posted a timer alarm that helps with lucidity through alarm patterns if you are interested, search my post..

[penfaces117]

hey man thanks, I'm going to try tonight, btw i free run as well its loads of fun, i also skate

[SilverBells]

I love your no nonsense style OP. Ive only ever had one WILD by accident when falling asleep for the first time unfortunately it must have been a light sleep as i was immediately woken up by my pet rats running about. Whenever ive tried WBTB + WILD. I either overshoot the waking period and can't get back to sleep or get so freaked out during SP i wake myself.

[greatwork]

i tried WBTB at 430am - i went to bed at 1130pm and had to be up at 630am. I tried to WILD, but it was so hard to focus continuing my awareness. i ended up falling asleep and waking up to my alarm for work. how can i combat fatigue and maintain focus?

[Chimpertainment]

According to stephen laberge, the LD guru, you can have dreams at any point in your sleep cycle, however it is much much more likely to happen during REM as someone has already mentioned. He also said the most effective way to WILD is to sleep for about 6 hours, then stay up for 2 hours, then attempt a WILD. Apparently, that increases your chances of WILD even more. If i remember correctly ,your max REM cycle is at 10 hours after going to sleep but most people dont reach that point while sleeping. Also, waking up for 2 hours wont interupt that time frame...apparently, ive never experienced this myself, just heard it on an interview with Mr. Bell on Coast to Coast AM. I personally have transitioned from waking when first going to bed to dream through SP even though it sometimes resulted in a nightmare. that was when i was only a small child though.

[wasanga]

Anyone who has had success with LDing will tell you that it is NEAR impossible at night time without any sleep.. You will have about 95 percent better success after about 5 hours of sleep.. Sometimes people can manage to actually get it to work before bed, but thats the 5 percent we are talking about, and the reasoning for this is because these people usually don't get full nights of sleep and are their body is anxiously awaiting the rem period. This is rare but this is the reasoning behind why it does work for some people.. but let me tell you.. it is very rare.. if you are attempting to ld, do not waste time trying it at night before bed.. you need REM to dream, and its very light at this time.. also your rem periods are much longer after 5 hours of sleep, so if you do manage to LD at night time, it will be very short compared to after 5 hours of sleep.. trust me.. just don't waste your time at night, its not worth it. Gary havent been on this site in months! but checking the threads/posts iv made and read this one again.wanna say thanks lol.and yeah iv always tried it when going to sleep first.i feel it takes long unless im really sleepy,but usually able to get into the SP.gonna try what u said tonight.thanks again.

[cygnus]

Getting itchy??well hold it!!!! Advice is great!