Thread: I just took melatonin, will i be more likely to lucid dream?

I think its like 200mg, and i took it at 8 on the dot. I will be going to bed around 10, so you think i will be more likely to have a lucid dream. I heard it may be more vivid which will lead to me questioning the reality. I got some decent RC routines. I am working on DILD since I haven't had one yet. I have been trying for about a month, but just starting using a dream journal regularly. Please answer thanks!

lol sorry, i didn't mean 200mg, they are really tiny, but it suggests only one. I heard taking one a few hours before i go to sleep will kick in the vividness quicker into my sleep

I know that melatonin can improve sleep quality, and make it easier to fall asleep if you take it a few hours before bedtime. I'm not sure about it improving the likelihood of having a lucid dream, though.

Originally Posted by Puffin

I know that melatonin can improve sleep quality, and make it easier to fall asleep if you take it a few hours before bedtime. I'm not sure about it improving the likelihood of having a lucid dream, though.

i don't necessarily have to induce a lucid dream, but make it vivid enough to perform a RC know what i mean?

Well, vividness can have a role in attaining lucidity but it doesn't make that big a difference. It's really about awareness and how skeptical you are of what you're doing at the given moment. This is where awareness comes in handy; if you practice observing things in waking life it should carry on over to your dreams.

I'd still say the melatonin could help, though, so keep using it if it works.

Melatonin actually suppresses REM sleep...so while you're more likely to fall asleep quickly, you'll be less likely to actually dream. If you want to increase vividness, go with B6.
200 mg is fatal. 200 mcg, not so much. Actually, you have taken a very small amount. I'd be surprised if you noticed much of an effect at all. 3-5 mg is more like a standard.

Originally Posted by Mario92

Melatonin actually suppresses REM sleep...so while you're more likely to fall asleep quickly, you'll be less likely to actually dream. If you want to increase vividness, go with B6.

I didn't know that... I guess I learn something new every day here.

Anyways, I think B6 would actually be the better choice in terms of increasing vividness. Who knows why I didn't remember to mention that earlier.

Originally Posted by Mario92

Melatonin actually suppresses REM sleep...so while you're more likely to fall asleep quickly, you'll be less likely to actually dream. If you want to increase vividness, go with B6.
200 mg is fatal. 200 mcg, not so much. Actually, you have taken a very small amount. I'd be surprised if you noticed much of an effect at all. 3-5 mg is more like a standard.

Let's be clear. 200mg of melatonin is NOT fatal. Melatonin has a *very* low toxicity, much lower then B6. In fact it would require you to take 200mg PER KG per day to even begin to experience toxic side-effects.

Also, you suggest that melatonin supresses REM sleep. While I have not found melatonin to aid me in lucid dreaming, a simple google search will show you that there are NUMEROUS studies in the wild suggesting that melatonin not only promotes REM sleep, but increases its duration.

**EDIT: while 200mg isn't fatal, 1.5-3mg is probably the most anyone would need to fall asleep, 5mg for some but most will find it too strong. I would only try higher doses to see their effects on lucid dreaming, and during a period of time I know I can devote some serious hours to sleeping.

Originally Posted by TheUnknown

Let's be clear. 200mg of melatonin is NOT fatal. Melatonin has a *very* low toxicity, much lower then B6. In fact it would require you to take 200mg PER KG per day to even begin to experience toxic side-effects.

Also, you suggest that melatonin supresses REM sleep. While I have not found melatonin to aid me in lucid dreaming, a simple google search will show you that there are NUMEROUS studies in the wild suggesting that melatonin not only promotes REM sleep, but increases its duration.

**EDIT: while 200mg isn't fatal, 1.5-3mg is probably the most anyone would need to fall asleep, 5mg for some but most will find it too strong. I would only try higher doses to see their effects on lucid dreaming, and during a period of time I know I can devote some serious hours to sleeping.

Owned.

I'm taking B6, Melatonin, and Choline, which gave me my first lucid.

melatonin suppresses REM for the first half of the night, and causes REM rebound for the later half like any of the other serotonergic chemicals, 5-HTP, Tryptophan, and DHEA. so i would never take it unless you have plenty of time to sleep.

during dreaming the serotonin system is suppressed and this makes you less rational, an increase will help your cognition.

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Originally Posted by zhineTech

melatonin suppresses REM for the first half of the night, and causes REM rebound for the later half like any of the other serotonergic chemicals, 5-HTP, Tryptophan, and DHEA. so i would never take it unless you have plenty of time to sleep.

I definitely can feel that effect. I get no dreams before my wbtb, but dreams are more vivid and plentiful afterwards.

200 mg is about 40 times the strength of anything you can buy over the counter. That can not be good for you (or your pocket book). If anything, that'll put you out of commission for a while. Regular doses upward of 30 mg can act as a contraceptive. Some studies have suggested that it can lead to seizures and liver problems. 200 mg is definitely not what the OP took. 200 micrograms, perhaps, which won't do much at all.