Thread: **CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

hello everyone, I found this thread yesterday, and I've read every single page.
and I decided to make an account (which I literally JUST did) because I have some questions
well, last night I tried this method
(I set an alarm on my phones calender, to go off at 4:30am, and 6:00am, the shortest time they could go was one minute, but that didn't seem to mess anything up. I went to bed at 1am)
and the first time the alarm went off,I opened my eyes for like a split second, then shut them because I remembered I was doing this
(before I went to bed, I was telling myself not to move when the alarm goes off ect)
and once I closed my eyes, I was still laying still, and I started to feel a tingly feeling, and that's all I can remember, I think I couldn't keep myself awake
or me opening my eyes ruined it
so then the alarm went off at 6, and I was in an EXTREMELY uncomfortable position so I moved.
BUT I did remember 2 of my dreams, (I have a dream journal also) which is good progress because recently I've been only remember 1 or 0.

so does anyone have any tips for me to have this method work better??

Originally Posted by erible

hello everyone, I found this thread yesterday, and I've read every single page.
and I decided to make an account (which I literally JUST did) because I have some questions
well, last night I tried this method
(I set an alarm on my phones calender, to go off at 4:30am, and 6:00am, the shortest time they could go was one minute, but that didn't seem to mess anything up. I went to bed at 1am)
and the first time the alarm went off,I opened my eyes for like a split second, then shut them because I remembered I was doing this
(before I went to bed, I was telling myself not to move when the alarm goes off ect)
and once I closed my eyes, I was still laying still, and I started to feel a tingly feeling, and that's all I can remember, I think I couldn't keep myself awake
or me opening my eyes ruined it
so then the alarm went off at 6, and I was in an EXTREMELY uncomfortable position so I moved.
BUT I did remember 2 of my dreams, (I have a dream journal also) which is good progress because recently I've been only remember 1 or 0.

so does anyone have any tips for me to have this method work better??

One minute's too much. Try 10-15 secs.
Don't open your eyes, it ruins it. Don't move even if you're uncomfortable, it's usually just another of your body's tricks to testing if your mind's awake.
You're doing the 4½ and 6 hours right. Just make sure to set it at for example 6:30 instead of 6:00.. What I mean is, make sure you also add the time you take to fall asleep, in this example 30 minutes.

Originally Posted by erible

well I tried last night, fell asleep around 2 (couldn't get to sleep, so I think going to bed around 2 ruined it) first alarm at 4:30, I can barely remember that,alarm at 6am I opened my eyes, so then I set an alarm for 9 to see if it would work, and I was SO close. I think I woke up momentarily like RIGHT before the alarm went off and that ruined it!!! because when the alarm went off I stayed perfectly still, never opened my eyes, and nothing happened after a minute. I will try again, but I'll go to bed at like 12, I think I set the alarm intervals too close together, and I think I was too tired for the alarm at 4:30, does anyone have tips to make this better?
and I remembered 2 dreams when I woke up for one of the times, (which I forgot to write them down, now I only remember one ) and this morning, when I woke up for the day, I was having a detailed dream, and a phone call woke me up and I forgot it!! it's on the tip of my tongue and its so annoying because I was in the middle of the dream
anyway, what are the best times to do this?

I found going to bed that late is actually great for this, since you'll have an easier time falling asleep again once the alarm wakes you.. But you aren't supposed to set the alarm like you did. 2->4:30 is 2½ hours.. In my experience you'll need at least 4½, and at best 6 hours of sleep before trying this. It's too hard to hit the REM period at 1½ hours in, because so short.

Originally Posted by Spectrum

Curses. After my second attempt, I've still had no luck. Sadly, with regards to what happened when i woke up, my mind is completely blank.

Third time lucky!

Don't give up. I think I've tried over a hundred times now, with only minor success. Just stick at it, I just tell myself that once I get this technique working and perfected, I'll be able to have lucids at least once every single night! It doesn't take any of your sleep away to try, so just keep at it. Also, read my post above; don't just lie there, make sure you visualize! It makes the whole difference IMO.

Hope that helps you guys a bit.