Thread: **CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

Found an auto - off alarm for the ipod touch! It is called
"alarm night clock lite"
on the features it says
"-Customize alarm duration"

Originally Posted by Ladon

So when you wake up, should you continue breathing through your nose or mouth? :p

Yes, otherwise you would die of suffocation.

Just kidding... I guess you should do whatever would involve moving the least. If your body is already breathing through your nose, then opening your mouth would wake you up. And if you're breathing through your mouth, then closing it would wake you up.

i believe this is what idid when i had my first LD
I will try this tonight and post my results in the morning

Ok,
ive tried this and when im paralyzed* i swallow my saliva (cant help it), when i do this its IMPOSSIBLE for me to WILD..

The closest i got was i focused on my 3rd eye and my vision turned white, which is when the swallowing thing happened.

any tips?

For a brief alarm, I would recommend the Invisible Clock. You can set it to beep or vibrate, and you can adjust the beep volume and the number of beeps from one to six. I've stopped doing middle-of-the-night alarms, but when I was doing that for a while, the Invisible Clock worked perfectly--it beeped three times, woke me up, and that was that.

Originally Posted by ProdigyRd

Ok,
ive tried this and when im paralyzed* i swallow my saliva (cant help it), when i do this its IMPOSSIBLE for me to WILD..

The closest i got was i focused on my 3rd eye and my vision turned white, which is when the swallowing thing happened.

any tips?

If swallowing really gives you problems (it doesn't for some people), then try sleeping on your side with your mouth slightly open. Any saliva accumulation will drip out onto your pillow. It's gross, but it works.

Has anyone seen the saltcube LD tutorial videos? I downloaded the video a couple of months ago and it has something similar to this but instead of just "waking up" once, they give you a timer that beeps multiple times, every certain minutes (for instance, you can adjust it to beep once every 20 minutes) so you can have multiple short LDs but with a higher possibility of having one (since you have more chances to try to "wake up" without moving your body).

Here is the timer if anyone wants it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XR03EP64

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

Yes, you keep your eyes closed, i would imagine it quite hard to sleep with your eyes open. You should not open your eyes for 1 second. If you do, you have failed and must perform a WBTB.

thanks

Originally Posted by gsoldi

Has anyone seen the saltcube LD tutorial videos? I downloaded the video a couple of months ago and it has something similar to this but instead of just "waking up" once, they give you a timer that beeps multiple times, every certain minutes (for instance, you can adjust it to beep once every 20 minutes) so you can have multiple short LDs but with a higher possibility of having one (since you have more chances to try to "wake up" without moving your body).

Here is the timer if anyone wants it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XR03EP64

Nevermind the link, someone already posted the timer online. Here's the link if someone missed it
http://www.saltcube.com/timer.swf

I was looking for the saltcube videos online but haven't found anything, it explains why is technique works. I'll see if I can upload it to video.google.

One question on the transition part. When do I try to "sit up" or roll over? There have been many times that I've felt the tingling sensation and I've rolled over but I actually moved my physical body, but, also times when I've waited too long after the tingling/weight sensations and when I rolled over I moved my physical body. When exactly do I have to "sit up"? How many minutes should I wait after the sensations?

Thanks!

I have found a way to record my voice onto my cell....but I still can't get it to ring only once. Help, please?

I got startled by my cellphone alarm when i tried this... and moved alot.

But now my computer is working again and i'll try this again with the alarm originally mentioned. I'll edit this post after i try this tech again If it doesn't works, i'll still find this tech the best one out there.

this sounds very interesting and i will try this.
as for the alarm that starts and stops by itself.. i would suggest downloading this to your cell phone.
http://www.lucidweaver.com/
its free so dont worry about that. i got it a while ago and realized it would work for this. it has three functions.
The first is meant to wake the person up at a set time during the night or in cycles during the night.
The second is an actual waking alarm.
The third sets up random periods where your phone prompts you to do reality checks.
The only one you need to worry about is the Dream function. if you set it right in the options you can set it so it only goes off once and stops immediately.
Steps:
1: Highlight the "Dream" icon, it has what looks like a moon on it. Hit Options, then Settings.
2. Click on "Dream Settings"
3. The options in here can be set to every individuals needs depending on how they want to be woken up. The only ones you have to change are:
a. Delay set to 1
b. Cycle length set to the number of minutes you want it to wake you up. EX: if you want 6 hours you would type in "360"
c. Extra Period to 1
d. Extra Repeat to 1

and thats it.. and trust me its not really that hard i just put instructions for people that couldnt figure it out by themselves.

notes: you need to have someway to get the application to your phone, whether through bluetooth on your computer or a direct connection etc.
the instructions i gave could be different for other phones, so beware of that. and also make sure to shut off the application after you wake up, so it doesnt go off during the day 360 minutes later (or however long you set it).

hope this helps yalls.

Giving this a shot tonight, though it's getting late, so I doubt it'll work. I'll keep on trying, and see how it goes. I'm sure this is a technique that will work really well for me actually. Thanks

For anyone interested in this technique who doesn't have an iPhone/smartPhone, special alarm clock, laptop etc. I found that creating a really big MP3 file with a lot of silence and a sound at the end works great.

To make the file I would recommend audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/), its free and it's a great program for sound editing. Just go to generate silence and put in however long you want and put some noise at the end. Then, to make it a reasonable size, export the mp3 at like 8 or 16 kb/s and set the sample rate low. I created a 6 hour mp3 that took only 35MBs doing that, small enough to put on almost anything that can play music.

Hope this helps anyone in the same situation I was in.

Well, CrazyInSane, I'm gonna quote you for truth on this, and try it tonight. Wish me luck! Whether or not it works, thanks for contributing a method that has clearly helped others to achieve their lucidity.

I'm having a really hard time waking up. So far I've attempted it two nights, but I simply don't wake up. I'm gonna use a louder alarm and get some more sleep.

I tried it last night and didn't LD or a dream, been a couple nights without dreams of any kind. It startled me and I shook awake, so I'm going to try it again tonight, now that I know what it's like.

Thanks for a great tutorial! I think this technique has great potential. Because when i elarnt it really well, you can say "Well, i cant do that in a LD tonight, since i need the sleep, take it tomorrow?", which would be impossible with such techniques as DILD.
But one question, i got a wristwatch with alarm. It goes "Bip bip, bip bip", but it goes on for about 13 seconds. Does it still work?

//Zelzahim

I have a timer set on my mac that plays 5 high bell sounds for about 5 seconds. But i feel as if the 5 single bells that ring when the alarm goes off, will not be enough to wake me up. Do i need a constant noise like the sound file you provided that gets progressively louder, or can 5 constant high pitched bell sounds be enough on my computer to wake me up?

Thanks. I am going to try this tonight

Originally Posted by Zelzahim

Thanks for a great tutorial! I think this technique has great potential. Because when i elarnt it really well, you can say "Well, i cant do that in a LD tonight, since i need the sleep, take it tomorrow?", which would be impossible with such techniques as DILD.
But one question, i got a wristwatch with alarm. It goes "Bip bip, bip bip", but it goes on for about 13 seconds. Does it still work?

//Zelzahim

Well, from reading over the tutorial, and from trying this myself, 13 seconds is going to fully wake you up, assuming you wake up before the last 3-5 seconds of the alarm. If you think about it in terms of just sitting there with an alarm, 13 seconds is a very long alarm. Also, I don't think it would even be loud enough unless you have your hand up by your head when the alarm goes off. Is it a very loud alarm, one that you think would wake you up from it? If it does, I think it's too long of an alarm to do a CAN-WILD as described above.

Originally Posted by dreamer94

I have a timer set on my mac that plays 5 high bell sounds for about 5 seconds. But i feel as if the 5 single bells that ring when the alarm goes off, will not be enough to wake me up. Do i need a constant noise like the sound file you provided that gets progressively louder, or can 5 constant high pitched bell sounds be enough on my computer to wake me up?

Thanks. I am going to try this tonight

Either way should work fine for you - I tried it the other night myself with a constant, loud clip from a song that lasted for about 4 seconds before disappearing, which was plenty enough to wake me up and yet not long enough to keep me awake. Chances are, you're going to be awoken by the very first sound from the alarm, so if it gets progressively louder, or is just loud constantly, it could work either way.

If you're undecided and could go either way, I'm going to recommend you use the progressively increasing in volume version of the custom alarm, since I think that would get you up, yet not scare you awake like mine did, and you'll be able to get right back to sleep.

Originally Posted by Zelzahim

Thanks for a great tutorial! I think this technique has great potential. Because when i elarnt it really well, you can say "Well, i cant do that in a LD tonight, since i need the sleep, take it tomorrow?", which would be impossible with such techniques as DILD.
But one question, i got a wristwatch with alarm. It goes "Bip bip, bip bip", but it goes on for about 13 seconds. Does it still work?

//Zelzahim

there is obviously no set alarm... if its hard for you to wake up something that long wouldnt be a problem, but if you are a light sleeper you might want to consider something shorter.

I have a question about this tutorial. I was just reading over the definition of a DEILD. From the description, it sounds just like a CAN-WILD.

"DEILD | Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream

A lucid dream that is entered consciously after waking up for only a moment. It works because there is no lapse in the REM state in the mind and turns the logical centre of the mind on during the brief awakening."

What sets the CAN-WILD method apart from a DEILD?

EDIT: I just reread his first post and found that he CrazyInSane's method does not require the exiting of a dream beforehand, yet by comparison in methods and steps to take, that's the only difference between this and a DEILD. I'm not meaning to belittle this technique, just wondering what makes it a stand-alone variation of the DEILD method?

Alarm device?