First night of trying this method and I don't think the alarm woke me up. I'm a heavy sleeper so I'll either have to turn it up or instead of having a 5 second alarm change it to 10 seconds.
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First night of trying this method and I don't think the alarm woke me up. I'm a heavy sleeper so I'll either have to turn it up or instead of having a 5 second alarm change it to 10 seconds.
Tried this last night. I told myself "I will NOT move when my alarm goes off", and went to sleep. When my 10 second alarm went off, I moved to shut it off. Although, when my normal alarm clock went off I woke with my eyes closed and my body perfectly still. If only it didn't have a duration of five minutes...
Also, I am using the "Auto-shutoff alarm clock" app for the iphone/ipod touch. Although it has to be plugged in (The application stays on all night), it does have a 10 second duration. As I saw in the other posts..it sounds like 10 seconds is fine unless your a light sleeper.
I'll try this method tonight; I'll tell you how it goes!
Just downloaded the app mentioned by LucidApprentice, going to give this a go tonight, looks very promising. :)
I'm assuming this post was meant as asking "What is an alarm device?" In case you haven't found out, that'll just be anything that makes a sound with the intention of waking you up. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bushi
Are there any auto shut-off alarm clock apps that don't cost anything?
Well I gave it a go, woke up from a dream and rolled over 10-20 seconds before it went off.
Needless to say it didn't work. :/
Will try again tonight.
Funny. I had this idea for a while already, but I can see you made it to perfection. I already made my own mp3, and because I use my Nokia phone as alarm, I had to add minute of silence after my "custom sound". My idea is (and I tried it today) that you set an alarm at certain time (obviously you had a great idea that it can be only 1 hour before you normally wake up) and I set it to repeat every 20 minutes.
That means, it's 7 am and the alarm wake me up. I don't have to do anything because it's only few second very silent sound followed by complete silence. I don't want to move or listen to beeping sound for the whole minute, right? Then I can try this CANWILD thing and if unsuccessful, after 20 minutes the same thing again. And then again. Depend on how much time you have. I wouldn't go with the repeat under 15 minutes, because you don't want to be woken up that soon in case you have LD.
My original idea was that I would hear the sound in my dream and make it a dream sign. But I always woke up. You made it a perfection by the advice it's OK to wake up but I actually shouldn't move!
It worked!! Today I tried it for the first time and no, I didn't have LD, but I was sooooo close! I had all those goin-into-the-dream feelings (I love them)! I just couldn't made it into dream, I tried imagining environment where I want to appear but I don't really remember what happened then.
I will try this again and many times, seems like very good and easy method.
P.S.: Here's the mp3 file I created and used as an alarm (in my cell phone). Note that the mp3 is very silent, but on phone it's still pretty loud to wake you up. Try it in quiet environment before you use it. http://www.sendspace.com/file/993mmj
Hey guys, someone above already posted this but I thought it was very useful so I'll repost it to let you guys know about it. It is basicaly a program that has up to 15 time intervals that you can set up to go off throughout the night that automaticaly shut off, which means 15 chances each night rather than just one! Check out the link.
http://www.saltcube.com/timer.swf
Hello,
I'm new here today and I have had quite a few MILD's and recently one WILD using the rhythm napping timer from the salt cube website. Last night I woke up after six hours and couldn't get back to sleep for another five hours!!! This is a recurring problem for me and I have to get up to do my human being daytime duties :). The CANWILD method here has got me really excited - so simple and effective so Im going to try it tonight. Fortunately my mobile phone alarm turns off after a minute and I can set multiple alarm times too so I could try it at the end of every REM period. The great thing about the alarm is that it has ascending volume so it will wake me gently when it gets to the right volume and thus prevent me from entering a state of shock and moving to turn it off. I will post my results as there doesn't seem to be many people doing that on this thread.
Good luck, mcwillis!
As I expected I didn't have a LD as I knew I would move when the alarm went off and I had the alarm go off every ten minutes for an hour and a half. The first alarm went off after 6 hours sleep. 50% of the time I moved when I awoke and as I decided to train myself to stay completely still for the next alarm call I immediately allowed myself to fall asleep straight away. Once I have got staying still mastered I will stay awake and use sleep paralysis transition techniques to enter an LD or possibly an OBE. CrazyInsane's transition technique was listening to the sounds in his ears/head (tinnitus as he put it). Im going to try several to see which works best for me. I will post tonights results tomorrow.
Slept for six hours and then had my alarm go off every ten minutes for an hour and a half. Sadly I moved every time the alarm went off. Tonight I will give instructuions to my subconscious before going to bed to stay still when the alarm goes off. Once I have achieved a state of stillness when awaking I will use the transition methods from Michael Raduga's free ebook on LD's and OBE's that I downloaded for free from his website. I will post tonights results tomorrow.
Slept for six hours. Set my phone alarm to snooze every ten minutes to a maximum of ten times. The alarm goes off after a minute by default. Again I moved about 50% of the time and went straight back to sleep. When I didn't move I didn't stay awake for more than a few seconds as I am being too passive as im afraid that if im too aggresive in staying awake I won't be able to get back to sleep again. It turned out that on the last alarm I did stay awake and didn't move but my body felt really uncomfortable so I think I was mentally too tense which was reflected in my body. I looked out for hypnogogic images and sounds but nothing. I wasn't in sleep paralysis as I tried muscle twitching. I also tried rolling my dream body but nothing - I was clearly too tense. But it was easy staying still on the last attempt so Im getting there. In the 2 hours of the alarm going off every ten minutes I finally got up and recalled five dreams in good recall to put in my dream journal so that was a great bonus.
EDIT: I was just reading my post here about my five dreams recalled and just remembered another one !!
Instead of CANWILD I decided to combine WBTB and the 4 minute ramp timer from the saltcube website last night again after reading in another thread that laying on one's floor for 15 minutes enables one to get back to sleep really quickly after being up for an hour. Still couldn't get to sleep for 2 hours (I leave a half hour gap before the timer starts). I will use WBTB and CANWILD on different nights. If I get success with CANWILD I will leave my results as I haven't added anything in this thread of great significance yet apart from greatly increased dream recall.
I'll try this a few times and see how it works out for me. Very nice tutorial.
looks like it would work, but i cant leave my computer on overnight and dont have an iPod. The computer fan control broke so now its constantly at full speed, really noisy!
Anyway, i made a post and apparently its similar. You can view it here. You dont need an iPod, just a phone, and its all free and easy. Even though its based on your technique, i dont wake up from the alarm. Interestingly, even if you dont wake from it, you get incredible recall, because an alarm going off every hour NEARLY wakes me up. I had 5 lucids last night with this. One of them lasted 30 secs, and i woke up and fell asleep, but because i had the alarm repeat every minuite for 5 mins after the alarm actually rings, i got straight back into it :D
Success last night! Awesome technique, Crazyinsane.
It seems like a great technique, I will try it tonight or tomorrow night. I think the hardest part of all is to stay awake while waiting for the transition. Anyone has a good way to stay awake?
I never wake up in sleep paralysis, even if I stay perfectly still. Am I abnormal? Is waking up in sleep paralysis a requirement for this to work?
I was having this same problem. I started waking up earlier in my sleep cycle. This help tremendously with going back to sleep again fast enough. Also if the timer is too loud it will jolt you awake and get your adrenaline pumping. I'm still trying to find that perfect balance myself but these tips have helped me in my tweaking process.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcwillis
I'd say no, you're not abnormal. My understanding of your situation is that when your alarm goes off and you're in your usual sleep cycle, you don't wake from it. Is this what you mean? Keep in mind that sleep paralysis sets in during REM sleep, so if you're sure that your alarm is going off right during one of your REM stages, then your post was correct and you're just having trouble waking from the alarm.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofhypocrites
No not necessary, there are some very useful techniques to induce a LD as soon as you wake up. Check this site www.obe4u.comQuote:
Originally Posted by kingofhypocrites
**iPod users — there may be an alarm clock app that allows for the auto-stop alarm feature, but this hasn't been confirmed yet. The built-in alarm does not have this feature. For the time being, I recommend searching the app store to see if you can find an alarm app that would allow for a non-infinite loop alarm sound to go off. There is a $0.99 app that may have the feature (called "Alarm Clock Pro"), but I haven't tested it out yet. If you're willing to pay for and test it, let us know the results. Otherwise, we need to get someone to create an LD iPod app for us!
I will confirm this. i have a jailbroken iPhone and will let you guys know tonight hopefully.
ps. dont tell on me:shadewink:
Ok so, in response to the Alarm Clock Pro app it does not have an auto shutdown function available. However it does support custom audio(im sure other alarms do too). So my solution would be for iPod touch iPhone users to make an audio file with a 3-10 second alarm, followed by an hour of silence. I think for all intent and purposes this will work.
EDIT: also it does have a pretty cool alarm *FADE IN* feat. which i think would prove good for waking up without any motion.