Thread: **CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

Can we get another sound file? It pisses my brother off to no end.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Wow. . .

This is tech is beautiful.

I just need to find a way to set it up without killing the battery on my iPod.

Thanks man. You've just made my day. ^.^

Two small bits of criticism, though. Your format makes the content "hard" to read, what with having to side-scroll to see it all. Also, I'm wondering if this has hit the Research Forum yet, because you're doing yourself a discredit if it hasn't.

Wow. Thanks so much for the praise! It's very much appreciated; it's great to know my tutorial is being appreciated in the community.

Sorry about the format, it fits in my screen but I have a 17" monitor. Unfortunately for the time being I can't change it, because I can no longer edit my original post. I think it's because I've edited it too many times. I'm trying to contact an administrator get that fixed now, because I need to add new additions.

Thanks for recommending this for the Research Forum; I'll definitely look into adding some of the information from this tutorial there. There are definitely some ideas about sleep paralysis and DEILD that I would like to bring into question there.

Originally Posted by Leonix

Can we get another sound file? It pisses my brother off to no end.

Yeah dude it's a very annoying sound, but it works for me. You can use any sound you want; you can search for short audio alarm clips online, specifically at http://www.findsounds.com/. If you're using the Easy MP3 Alarm Clock make sure to get an MP3 file, not a WAV file, as I'm not sure if they support WAV files.

Alright, thanks a lot. Tested last night with no luck, probably because it wasn't loud enough to wake me up. If I set it loud enough, it would wake my brother up too


Looks like I found something even more annoying:
http://www.medc.com/catalog/Wav%20Files/tone12.wav

Geeeh I awoke before the alarm was due to go off, kind of throwing off everything and I wasn't in the mood to do a WBTB 'cause I had to be up for 8am.

However, got the weekend to try this out with my watch as an alarm. Sheesh it's kind of difficult to find something that has an auto-stop feature and doesn't ring for too long (not keeping my computer on all night).

Originally Posted by The Dreaming Zombie

Geeeh I awoke before the alarm was due to go off, kind of throwing off everything and I wasn't in the mood to do a WBTB 'cause I had to be up for 8am.

However, got the weekend to try this out with my watch as an alarm. Sheesh it's kind of difficult to find something that has an auto-stop feature and doesn't ring for too long (not keeping my computer on all night).

You can try to buy the alarm clock AngelZlayer recommended if you're willing to invest in it, but we're still not sure whether it actually has the function we're looking for, although the page description does suggest so.

It's unfortunate that these types of alarm clocks are not manufacturered more broadly, but I guess there wouldn't be much use for this feature for anything other than what we want it for.

If you have a laptop you shouldn't have to worry about keeping it on all night, you can just adjust the battery to "power saver" so it uses the least amount of energy possible. It also will be very quiet in this mode. But if you have a desktop I can understand your concerns.

There is an alarm clock on the iphone, or ipod touch that turns itself of. It comes with 3 different alarm clocks so you can put more than one time in. The only bad thing is that the shortest time you can pick is 10 seconds. So it takes 10 seconds before it turns itself of.

It's called Auto-Shutoff Alarm Clock

Ten seconds shouldn't be a problem. We have one guy here who's going to be trying with an alarm that rings for a minute, so 10 seconds will be fine. Just try not to focus on the ringing once it awakens you, instead focus on clearing your mind and forgetting about the external environment. As long as you don't move your body, you should still feel perfectly "within your own body" even if the alarm is going for 10 seconds.

We rarely get to experience continuous sleep paralysis when alarms go off, because we always move right away to shut them off; thus ending SP. But when we know we don't need to turn an alarm off—even if it's gonna be going for 10 seconds or more—we consciously won't move and thus will stay in SP.

Just train yourself not to move when it goes off, and to try blocking out the sound and all external stimuli from your mind. Also, I'd recommend cranking the iPod's volume but putting it as far from your bed as you can, because you won't want it blaring near your ears.

ok then thanks ill try putting it across the room cuz right now its on my bed and will probably be to loud. So ill try this tonight and let yu know if it works.

Originally Posted by AngelZlayer

This alarm clock might be something. I've read about it here (scroll down to center), and it said that it has an auto-stop function. I have no idea if you can set it to 3 seconds though, but I'm thinking about buying it.

Have been checking out all the Seiko alarm clocks with this "alarm auto-stop function". Unfortunately most of their adverts say; "Automatic alarm stop function, stops alarm after 5 minutes".
I can't find a clock where I can set the alarm time to 3 secs at the moment, but trying to figure out if I can mod a cheap digital.

Alright I kind of messed up because I thought I had my alarm set for 4 am but turns out I had it set for 7:30 (my usual wake up time).

Since the alarm on the watch ain't that loud I only noticed it was going off about 45 seconds in to the 1 minute duration. And the good news is...I didn't open my eyes as I usually do and I had great dream recall.

I couldn't get the technique to work because it was too late in the morning but I actually did see some minor HI before I got up.

Gonna try again tonight (properly), fingers crossed.

Originally Posted by Watchman

Have been checking out all the Seiko alarm clocks with this "alarm auto-stop function". Unfortunately most of their adverts say; "Automatic alarm stop function, stops alarm after 5 minutes".
I can't find a clock where I can set the alarm time to 3 secs at the moment, but trying to figure out if I can mod a cheap digital.

Yeah, it's too bad that there literally aren't any alarms that offer this type of option. But good luck on modding one; keep us updated.

Originally Posted by The Dreaming Zombie

Alright I kind of messed up because I thought I had my alarm set for 4 am but turns out I had it set for 7:30 (my usual wake up time).

Since the alarm on the watch ain't that loud I only noticed it was going off about 45 seconds in to the 1 minute duration. And the good news is...I didn't open my eyes as I usually do and I had great dream recall. For example, I had a big lack of sleep within the past week and I tried CANWILD last night by setting the alarm for when I usually get up, but I wasn't in REM yet because my body was catching up on sleep. I fell back asleep for four more hours (a total of 11 hours) and I was into some serious REM near the end of my sleep, but unfortunately I didn't have the alarm set up.

I couldn't get the technique to work because it was too late in the morning but I actually did see some minor HI before I got up.

Gonna try again tonight (properly), fingers crossed.

Yeah, at the very least the alarm technique will give you better dream recall and will make you more aware of your sleeping patterns.

I didn't include anything about this in the main tutorial text (I can't edit it anymore) but I wanted to add that you also need to find your own personal timeframe for setting the alarm, by trial and error. For some people, 15 minutes before normal waking is when they will need to set the alarm, and for others it could be 30 minutes. Or for days where you don't have to get up at all, you could try setting it a bit later than normal. It's all about experimentation; everyone is different. Whether you will have success also depends a lot on what time you go to sleep and whether you've had any lack of sleep recently. For example, this past week I had a severe lack of sleep and I went to try CANWILD last night, but when I woke up at my normal 8-hour sleep time I wasn't even in REM sleep, because my body was catching up on sleep. I fell back asleep for 4 more hours (a total of 12 hours) and I was in serious REM by the end of it.

I'll also add that this technique can be used in combination with WBTB, whereas you can set the alarm for the middle of the night and try THIS technique first, and if it doesn't work, get up and try WBTB.

Originally Posted by CrazyInSane

I'll also add that this technique can be used in combination with WBTB, whereas you can set the alarm for the middle of the night and try THIS technique first, and if it doesn't work, get up and try WBTB.

That's exactly what I was going to do. I can see how this can work in the morning, but I don't feel as relaxed then.

Originally Posted by The Dreaming Zombie

That's exactly what I was going to do. I can see how this can work in the morning, but I don't feel as relaxed then.

Yeah... this tech. works best for me in the morning, but I'm sure it's customizable for the middle of the night as well. Only reason I didn't include that option in my main post is because it's kinda hard to guess-timate when you're going to be in a REM period in the middle of the night for certain. You're always in REM in the pre-wake morning period, but yes it's quite possible you may be less relaxed as well. When/if I can ever edit the original post again, I'll change some of those specifics.

What a great tutorial with easy to follow instructions!

I definitely plan on giving this method a try once my life settles a bit! Good job!!

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Thanks, Clairity. I wish you well and hopefully your life settles soon. I was the first person to reply on your WILD technique thread BTW

Just wanted to add a quick "source" to one of my main claims in this technique (I would add the source directly to the OP but it can't be edited).

http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.c...paralysis.html

On that page, if you scroll down to the section titled "Sleep Paralysis is Most Likely When the Body was Recently Asleep", you'll read the following quote that supports my thesis that you will enter SP quickly if you "don't move" when you initially wake up:

And when I say, without moving I mean you wake up and don't move your eyes, don't open your eyes, don't scratch any itches, you don't move at all in any way. The idea is that your body doesn't really know for sure if your mind is actually awake or not. If you don't give it any signals otherwise, it will assume that the mind really is still asleep and re-paralyze itself.

So, I'm not sure where the science comes from on this site, but it seems pretty legit. It's at least something to back up my main thesis in this technique.

This sounds good. I'll give it a shot if i can find an alarm that works for it that isnt on my computer. I dont have a laptop, so i cant leave my pc on wen i am sleeping.

I guess auto-suggestion is an alternative, if we don't find the right alarm clock.

Here's what i did:
I Took an alarm audio file, and opened it in vegas. I Made an empty mp3 file, and just put it in about an hour after the alarm sound in the same audio file. I put it on my phone, and used it as an alarm. Works like a charm. If anyone wants this file, just PM me your email. It's a rather big file though (128 megabytes)

now i am off to bed.

Originally Posted by Howard

Here's what i did:
I Took an alarm audio file, and opened it in vegas. I Made an empty mp3 file, and just put it in about an hour after the alarm sound in the same audio file. I put it on my phone, and used it as an alarm. Works like a charm. If anyone wants this file, just PM me your email. It's a rather big file though (128 megabytes)

now i am off to bed.

Good idea! And good luck; update us tomorrow with results.

Thanks a bunch Crazy, Ill post my results after a week of attempts!

Originally Posted by CrazyInSane

Really? Hmm, interesting. I checked out my iPod's alarm clock settings yesterday, but I must have missed this. Are you talking a regular iPod or an iPhone/iPod touch? I have an iPod touch. Anyway, thanks for pointing this out, I'll be checking my iPod again when I get home to figure it out.

I have only ever had the Ipod Classic. I am on my second which I got quite recently. But the feature was also available on my "old" Ipod classic which I had for over two years - and the feature was available on the old one also.

The menu path from the main menu is:

EXTRAS -> ALARMS -> ALARM ON

Then scroll down and select SOUND. You then have two choices - either choose a TONE, OR select a PLAYLIST.

As I said. I have a SONY voice digital recorder I use to record my dreams when I wake. Like you I find it counter productive to turn on lights or move about after a dream - so I record my dreams on the voice recorder.

I will make a short 5-10 second "Wake Up, dont move, its WILD time" MP3 file on the voice recorder and put this in a playlist when I get home from China.

I get back to the USA on FRiday but am normally very jet lagged for a couple of days - but I will try this out next week and let you know how it works.

gonna try this for the next few weeks, ill keep you posted, this is perfect because wild is too difficult for me but DEILD is how i usually go lucid, the only problem has been that all alarms require movement, thanks a lot man.
69 gold stars.

So didnt get any results tonight. The alarm Woke me wile i was in a really uncomfortable position, so i just had to move. I'll be trying again tonight though.