I mean when I wake up after my alarm goes off and I remain still. How do I stay aware through the process, through SP, and into the dream? I've done it once before but have had difficulty for 16 consecutive nights since my first two lucid dreams.
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I mean when I wake up after my alarm goes off and I remain still. How do I stay aware through the process, through SP, and into the dream? I've done it once before but have had difficulty for 16 consecutive nights since my first two lucid dreams.
I'm completely new to Lucid Dreaming, and this will be my first go at it. I was wondering if someone could give me any tips, as I still dont really get what
to do for the transition.
I'm going to give this a break. I think I'm focusing too much on it and doing it every single night has made me lose my motivation. I'll take a break of at least a week, will let you know how that works out.
Read the last 4ish pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by newldreamer
You sir are awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by zhineTech
My phone turns of the alarm after 60 seconds and then goes into snooze (which I can disable).
so 60 seconds or so of silence after the alarm is all I need, thanks :D
This method is one I have used in the past for OBE's. Not quite sure how I would enter an LD using this but it certainly works for a Realtime Etheric Projection / OBE.
What's the difference between an OBE and a LD that starts in your bedroom?Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralBeginning
Some people believe them to be a spiritual experience; an OBE.Quote:
Originally Posted by stjimmy
Some other people, like me, believe that OBEs are really just semi-lucid dreams where the dreamer thinks it's an OBE.
Now, some more stuff related to the thread:
I tried again last night, I'll be trying this more irregularly from now on. I think randomization is the key for me right now. Last night I wanted to try doing push- and situps before going to bed to make sure I was tired enough to fall back asleep when the alarm woke me. However, I did too many and the alarm didn't wake me at all, even though it rang after 6:30 which definitely is in my REM period. I'll have to try doing half of what I did yesterday tonight.
I keep sleeping through the alarm. I swear there's something wrong with my speakers...
Man, your alarm noise was freakin scary - almost got a heart attack when it woke me up at 5:30 AM *laughs*
I decided to use a bell noise (4 sec) now, sounds like a cathedral bell ring.
Hope that'll wake me up more "gently"... :cheeky:
Personally I think there are no difference - projection, dreaming, etheric projection, lucid dreaming etc - all take place at some point along the continuum of consciousness and how aware of each you are depends on where your consciousness is focused. For a good article on how reality is made up (or a theory of such) have a read of the following:
astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html
This guy discussed something he called "phasing" which in essence is a WILD. Read specifically the part about the Focuses of Consciousness levels (FoC1/2/3/4)
Not wanting to drag this off topic, but trust me there is nothing "semi-lucid" about an OBE. Not only that but etheric OBE's take place near the physical reality and trust me again, events and things can be verified. Ive experienced both LD's and OBE's and while I think they are very related, OBE's are not dreams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaolc
You're telling me I can manipulate my surroundings with my mind via OBE?Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralBeginning
I'm more or less an atheist, I don't believe in anything that can't be explained scientifically. I think we should stop arguing about it in this thread, though, because otherwise we'll just end up like those Christian vs. Atheist debates where they discuss for hours and no one changes their point of view. Provide me with some scientific evidence and I'll be happy to change my view, but for now let's just agree to disagree :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralBeginning
@OT: I tried this method last night once again, but was drunk, so the alarm never woke me up. However, something weird happened.. I was basically able to control my dreams almost 100% through the whole night, and every time I woke up I could just visualize something and it'd become a dream without SP or anything. I have no idea what I have been drinking though, got a lot of different stuff from a lot of different people. Was a really interesting night, though! Too bad being drunk makes you think with your d*ck, I never even got to try flying and all that :?
CrazyInsane, thank you for this awesome technique!
It looks very promising, and I got the alarm clock app on my laptop and had it set to go off at 7:30 this morning. (went to bed at midnight)
Unfortunately when it woke me up, I moved a lot and then remembered not to and was like "damn it. :("
Only my first attempt though, I'm gonna try again every night from now on, and it looks like other people are having some success after multiple tries.
Does anyone have some tips on how to remember to stay still when you wake up? Like really...I just instinctively moved, I don't know.
I think I might change to a less jarring noise and see if that has any effect.
Also, what is the best time to set the clock for if we don't have to get up at a set time that day, like on the weekend? I typically sleep in till 10:30 or so but it's not definite...Like is 6 hours into sleep a late REM period?
And then, what does the transitioning feel like, like the sleep paralysis and all that? I've done WILD attempts before and gotten to a feeling of warm tingliness over all my limbs and torso, is that progress, and a sign of soon SP?
Thank you again CrazyInsane, and thank you everyone!
robothat: This alarm noise stuff jumped me awake almost every time, meaning I wouldn't wake up without moving. NOISE - Ö_Ö - *wince* - wtf!?
I replaced the alarm with "Really's Ultimate Lucid mp3" (search for it in the forum), cause the mp3 begins very smoothly and gently arouses me from sleep, so that I have time to realise what's happening.
Well, at least works for me. But you should definitely give it a try ;)
To a degree yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaolc
Read "My Big TOE" by Thomas Campbell. He is a Nuclear Physicist and explains the nature of reality through science. But never forget, 50 years ago science couldnt prove most of what we now take for granted. The limitations on scientific research should not limit how you view your reality. Just because science cant prove something TODAY, doesnt mean it wont prove it tomorrow.
See, i'd call that 'sleep walking'.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralBeginning
so my birthday was 2 days ago, and I got an IPod touch, and I'm going to try that alarm thing someone has mentioned before (I got the 12,24 alarm app) I haven't tried a CAN WILD in a while....
so has this alarm thing worked for you? I go into a good REM state after about 5 hours...
I feel very confident in this tonight, should I take vitamin B6?
Last time I checked I couldnt walk through walls when sleep walking, however I can when I have an OBE. Listen, try this yourself - DONT simply believe or disbelieve me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2
Alright well I would but i'm having trouble lucid dreaming so far. I'd rather get a grip on that first, and then try the other aspects of projection.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralBeginning
this tutorial is EXACTLY what im looking for
i have been interested in LDing for a while but havnt had them in some time, basically due to dedication issues
i needed a brand new technique to help me ease back into lding..i think this is it
ive been trying wbtb with almost no success and i will def try this tonight
i should be in bed around 1..to sleep around 2 and ill wake myself up for 8am..i hope i get lucid:)
ill let you know
EDIT: nvm iHome+Sleep doesn't work :P
ok so I've been getting lazy with this and haven't tried a CAN WILD in a while
but tonight I will, I set my settings on the 12,24 alarm clock app for my ipod touch
but I have a question, should I sleep with headphones in? (not earbuds, the big headphones, so it's more comfy, I did last night part of the night for binaural beats and I was fine)
i don't know what I should do for that...
and if the ipod is on lock, will the alarm go off still?
oh and I just found another app called "Sleep Cycle alarm clock" ! for the ipod touch/iphone!
I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread, but it's only a dollar and it looks very useful :)