Yoshi's WILD Technique...

Hi Yoshi. Looks like my timing to read this whole thread was spot-on, since you just came back! I just wanted to share my first WILD attempt that I had last night (before reading your thread, but after browsing DV last night).

I woke up after a dream about 6 hours into sleep. I wrote down my dream, and decided to attempt WILD. I completely relaxed, and tried to focus my thoughts on numbers counting. I visualized imaginary chalk slowly counting up. I also kept telling myself "you will remain lucid." I didn't let my thoughts stray too much, and I just kept focused. I rolled over once I became uncomfortable (again, hadn't read your technique yet, it just felt natural!) and continued. I started feeling vibrations in my limbs, and it so exciting that I woke up! I rolled over again and tried again, and the feeling came back. I tried to remain calm and focused, and then I started hearing the hallucinations... strange noises. It freaked me out, but I kept calm. Then I heard a loud voice that startled me awake, and after that I ended up just falling asleep.

I have had frequent reoccuring SP episodes for over 12 years, and they are always scary. The whole reason for stumbling over DV was actually me googling how to make SP stop. Now I'm trying to embrace them and let them take me to LD, but it will take some getting used to since they almost always give me an overwhelming sense of fear and dread.

Do you have any advice for remaining calm through the noises? I know you said to casually and passively let them pass, but how do you keep yourself calm? I think my problem may be the stigma that I have given them over the years (long before I knew about LD). Its like I expect it to be scary and therefore it is... if that makes any sense.

Anyway, welcome back!

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Originally Posted by Thirsty

Hi Yoshi. Looks like my timing to read this whole thread was spot-on, since you just came back! I just wanted to share my first WILD attempt that I had last night (before reading your thread, but after browsing DV last night).

I woke up after a dream about 6 hours into sleep. I wrote down my dream, and decided to attempt WILD. I completely relaxed, and tried to focus my thoughts on numbers counting. I visualized imaginary chalk slowly counting up. I also kept telling myself "you will remain lucid." I didn't let my thoughts stray too much, and I just kept focused. I rolled over once I became uncomfortable (again, hadn't read your technique yet, it just felt natural!) and continued. I started feeling vibrations in my limbs, and it so exciting that I woke up! I rolled over again and tried again, and the feeling came back. I tried to remain calm and focused, and then I started hearing the hallucinations... strange noises. It freaked me out, but I kept calm. Then I heard a loud voice that startled me awake, and after that I ended up just falling asleep.

I have had frequent reoccuring SP episodes for over 12 years, and they are always scary. The whole reason for stumbling over DV was actually me googling how to make SP stop. Now I'm trying to embrace them and let them take me to LD, but it will take some getting used to since they almost always give me an overwhelming sense of fear and dread.

Do you have any advice for remaining calm through the noises? I know you said to casually and passively let them pass, but how do you keep yourself calm? I think my problem may be the stigma that I have given them over the years (long before I knew about LD). Its like I expect it to be scary and therefore it is... if that makes any sense.

Anyway, welcome back!

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Not to worry, I was the exact same way when I first started WILDing. Before I found lucid dreaming, I also used to get reoccurring SP and it would freak me out too. To be honest, it just takes some practice and getting used to the feeling. If you need to, reassure yourself that none of it is real, its all just hallucinations. Try to think of it like you are halfheartedly listening to a movie. Just relax and whatever sounds come, let them pass right through. Try not to think about any particular sound or any other particular type of hallucination. Keep in mind, that anything fearful will be over very soon. You were so very close to getting into the LD. Just keep practicing and keep gaining experience. Don't get frustrated and just keep working at it. Good luck to you and if you ever need anything else, don't hesitate to ask!

Hi KingYoshi,

I am very interested in your unorthodox approach, and have begun testing it. My immediate impression is that the flex freeze is a definite winner, likewise being "allowed" to roll over. However, I find the reverse blinking very distracting. It seemed to require too much thought and kept me wide awake. I also had the option of just listening to a ticking clock, and that worked much better for me.

I got some nice HI (visual, auditory, tactile) along the way. I didn't get a WILD, but that had nothing to do with your technique, rather external interruptions as this was an afternoon attempt.

I will try the flex freeze and optional roll again soon under better conditions and report back. Thanks for sharing - I do believe you're onto something.

Hey KingYoshi!

So, I tried this technique last night. I seem to get relaxed rather quickly, so when it felt like 8-10 minutes had passed, I didn't want to roll over. This happened 2 more times. Eventually I forgot i was WILDing and fell asleep.

I guess what I'm saying is, everytime I roll over, will I eventually get more and more relaxed until I reach SP? Because it felt like I wasn't getting anywhere. But I will try again tonight, and try to be more aware.

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Originally Posted by Sibyline

Hi KingYoshi,

I am very interested in your unorthodox approach, and have begun testing it. My immediate impression is that the flex freeze is a definite winner, likewise being "allowed" to roll over. However, I find the reverse blinking very distracting. It seemed to require too much thought and kept me wide awake. I also had the option of just listening to a ticking clock, and that worked much better for me.

I got some nice HI (visual, auditory, tactile) along the way. I didn't get a WILD, but that had nothing to do with your technique, rather external interruptions as this was an afternoon attempt.

I will try the flex freeze and optional roll again soon under better conditions and report back. Thanks for sharing - I do believe you're onto something.

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Yeah, the reverse blinking is something I only do if I don't feel like I'm very tired. Its really just to help speed up the process and is purely used based on preference. I didn't originally have it in this tutorial, but a lot of people were asking me about it and how to incorporate it into the technique. That is when I added that "bonus step" to show where to do it. Its perfectly fine to not use reverse blinking as it definitely can be distracting for some dreamers. It sounds to me like it was a pretty solid attempt. Even though you didn't complete the process you got some good experience there. Nice job and just keep practicing. Afternoon naps are great for WILDing, but the distractions are definitely more abundant during the day. Good luck to you and be sure to keep me updated :).

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Originally Posted by Sydney

Hey KingYoshi!

So, I tried this technique last night. I seem to get relaxed rather quickly, so when it felt like 8-10 minutes had passed, I didn't want to roll over. This happened 2 more times. Eventually I forgot i was WILDing and fell asleep.

I guess what I'm saying is, everytime I roll over, will I eventually get more and more relaxed until I reach SP? Because it felt like I wasn't getting anywhere. But I will try again tonight, and try to be more aware.

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Well, if you are really relaxed and comfortable, I'd suggest you just keep laying in the same position. 8-10 minutes is just a guesstimate on my part. Really, you just want to roll over if you start feeling discomfort or feeling like you aren't going to be able to fall asleep easily. I discovered that rolling over worked during my early WILD practice. I'd wait there forever trying my hardest to WILD and eventually I just gave up and rolled over into a comfortable position to go to sleep normally. Suddenly, the process started and I was amazed. I started doing the roll over on purpose and it helped me so much more than anything else I had been doing before. If you are already comfortable and it seems like you are getting closer and closer to sleep, you don't need to roll over. If you lay there longer and it turns out that you aren't getting anywhere, go ahead and roll over to refresh your mind set.

It sounds like you did nearly everything right because you fell asleep. Thats perfect, that is what you want to do. Now, you just need to work on keeping that awareness up as you fall asleep. That is the finesse part that takes some practice. Just keep at it and remember, the main goal is to fall asleep, you just want to be consciously aware as this happens. Good luck and keep me updated on your progress and don't hesitate to ask any questions you may have.

Thanks KingYoshi! I will definetly practice on my awareness. :)

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