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Tried it out last night but got too bored of lying around. I ended up falling asleep and having a DILD though so it's all good ;)
I'll try it again tonight after doing a WBTB, I don't think I was tired enough last night. I have a short attention span.
Yeah you may not have been tired enough. The beauty with WILD, is even when you don't succeed...your chances for DILD increase. You spending time just before bed trying to lucid dream, gets your brain in the lucid dreaming mind frame. Good luck to you!
This looks like the perfect technique for me! I found it hard staying on my back while trying it, and I am a side sleeper, always thought you weren't aloud to move ... will post results in the morning.
Good luck to you! With some techniques you are advised to lay completely still (or as still as possible). Keep in mind though, that there are many, many ways to achieve lucidity. Techniques that work for some, simply don't do it for others. If you struggle with the laying still in one position for long periods of time (like I did), then this may indeed be perfect for you. Remember to always try many different things and figure which works best for you. Don't ever be a afraid to tweak a technique to suit your preferences. Nothing with dreaming is precise or exact. There is a lot of flexibility when dealing with the dream world. Again, good luck to you!
I really like the way Yoshi is so positive and support everyone. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by MrBlue
He should win 10 internets.
No problem at all! That really means a lot to me, btw. I can still remember when I first started to lucid dream...how excited I was and how much of a positive effect lucid dreaming had on me. I want to give that back to the community with everything I have learned/experienced in my time here. I really enjoy helping everyone out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlue
:D!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerter
Ey Yoshi, I tried WBTB last night. It was successful. It was around 2:00 in the morning. I noticed my eyes were heavy and painful and dizzy. Is it normal? or Could it be that I disturbed my REM????
Hmm...your eyes were heavy, painful, and dizzy when you woke up for WBTB? Or, while you were trying to WILD during your WBTB?...or?
So tried this technique, didn't fully sp but got close I think, started vibrating over my body, and seeing colours, I got too excited though cause my heart started pounding and I started to heat up quite a bit (is that normal). I rolled over but lost it completely, think I will just stay on my back next time. :)
I reached SP, multiple times last night, again. I'm having alot of trouble transitioning into the dream though. Any tips or suggestions?
I am really trying to balance between being too tired and too awake, as I either fall asleep or cant fall asleep. Last night, I had a vivid dream after i fell asleep from this technique though. Attempting again tonight, of course
It's When I woke up FROM WBTBQuote:
Originally Posted by KingYoshi
Yeah, definitely don't roll over once you reach SP or when SP begins to set in. The roll over is for prior to getting into SP :P. Yeah, the pounding heart and "heating up" are common hallucinations. You heart really isn't beating fast. In fact, your heart rate is actually slowing down in preparation for sleep. Just simply to try ignore these hallucinations and continue toward a deeper and deeper state of relaxation. You were definitely close, just keep practicing. Congrats on your progress and good luck to you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerter
Once you reach SP, act as if it is completely normal and nothing odd is happening. Just continue to relax. Remember, the transition = falling asleep. Make sure you aren't focusing on anything in particular. Just casually sit back and observe/experience any HH/HI you may get and be confident that you will succeed in making it to the dream state. Just allow SP to intensify and sort of "take you" wherever it wants to go. Good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSculptor
I would suggest being on the tired side of the spectrum. No one likes laying awake for hours and even failed WILDs (from losing consciousness) often lead to vivid non-lucids or DILDs. Just try to keep a running watch on the darkness of your closed eyes. Try not to forget about it as you let your mind wander. Keep a casual watch on it at all times. Good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by RXC573
Ah, this is pretty normal. You were just disoriented. This happens sometimes when you wake up from sleep. It probably has to do with waking up from a particular phase of sleep (I'm not sure which one), but you are much more disoriented than usual when this happens (in my experience anyway). You didn't disturb your REM and I wouldn't worry too much about it :P. It happens from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by weakamon
If I keep a casual watch on the darkness I just lay awake for hours. If I don't, I fall asleep losing consciousness.Quote:
Just try to keep a running watch on the darkness of your closed eyes. Try not to forget about it as you let your mind wander. Keep a casual watch on it at all times.
That's the whole challenge with WILDs. You need to have an anchor for your consciousness that works for you. Something that doesn't dominate the forefront of your mind causing you to stay awake for hours, nor get too easily lost in your thoughts causing you to lose consciousness.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlue
One good anchor that works for a lot of people is dull pain. I've tried putting a small marble under ass while doing a WILD and it worked well for me. Another one I've tried is listening to my heart beat.
Thank you Raphael! I'm going to try with the anchor this night.
Last Night, I went to bed. I was planning to wake up 5 hours after I slept(WBTB). And for me to wake up, I filled up my bladder with 3 glasses of water. While sleeping(before the part where I wake up so that I can WILD in the mid. of the night), I had a dream(NOT LUCID). It was about visiting my old hometown and the other was about QuakerOats products. I was more focused on the QuakerOats stuff. My whole school is about QuakerOats. All my classmates are eating QuakerOats candy bar for recess while my teacher eat QuakerOats candy while teaching. I kept with the flow of my dream as if it was real. Then, at a certain part of that dream, I suddenly said to myself:"maybe I should wake up because 5 hours must have already passed since I slept". And then I woke up and it was 5 hours after I slept! I went to the bathroom and peeid and then went back to my bed. I then realized:"What the hell! I was lucid yet unlucid!
LOL I have a question: Was I lucid or not?
Ah, yeah I use the darkness as an anchor, but there are many others you can try. I just usually suggest it because it is simple and doesn't require a lot of concentration. Everyone's mind works differently and a visual anchor just may not work well for you. Raph suggested a couple and you could also try running a fan and using the constant drone-like sound, you can count breaths, think of a particular scene/object, or any other anchors you can think of. The sleeping on a marble idea is pretty interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlue
Lol, this happens sometimes (especially when you first start practicing lucid dreaming). Don't worry, it is good thing. It means your mind is starting to pick up on the concept and decipher reality from the dream state. I usually don't like to use the term semi-lucid, because you either know you are dreaming or you don't. If there is ever a time to use the term, it is with these types of dreams. Technically, you knew you were dreaming when you woke yourself up, so you were lucid. The best way to describe your mind-state, however, would probably be semi-lucid. Either way, you definitely obtained some lucidity :). So, congrats on that and keep practicing. You are getting very close to a full blown lucid experience. Good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by weakamon
Hey sorry if these questions are a bit silly, as I am knew to lucid dreaming!
I wonering how a nap and WBTB differs, im guessing with the nap you can go directly into the WILD but if you wake up in early hours its harder to go directly into a WILD, meaning you have to stay up and relax first.
Also how would sounds around you affect the WILD process, such as computer fans and such?
Napping would, in theory be harder to do because youve been awake for a while. A WBTB is in the middle of your REM period, your bound to be tired upon waking (the staying up and relaxing is just enough so that you dont end up falling asleep as soon as you close your eyes :P).Quote:
Originally Posted by deltz
To my understanding, sounds can be a good anchor, the question is; can you sleep with them on normally? Its all about going to sleep [but consciously].
Hope I helped.
Gonna try this gain tonight. Every morning though I get pumped up to do a wild, then by the time I wake up (4 hours from when I went to bed) I can't seem to get my sellf away from a bed for atleast ten minutes to become more aware instead of groggy.
I also find that after awhile of staying still I start feeling sharp pains on my head, my arm, or my foot to the point of driving me insane. I'm getting better at ignoring them but what are they? I feel like they are veins being closed off, but nothing it touching them besides my head on my bed.
The theory goes that its your mind 'making it up' to test if you are actually awake or not before it puts your body to sleep (SP), so most likely the pains are nothing more then in your mind; if you bolted up in bed and opened your eyes they would probably instantly go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripoli
Ey, Guess what? I got my first-ever Lucid Dream. I woke up at around 2am but I was too sleepy to WILD, so I went back to sleep. Then, i woke up again, it was 4am. I went to the toilet, peeid, and return to my bed. I then said to myself:"I can't just let my sleeping time get wasted to nothing, I must have a result or progress". So I tried to WILD. There were a lot of external factors disturbing me: the fan, the damn dogs whooing,etc. But I used one external factor as an anchor: the ticking of the clock. I slept like I used to, the only difference is I'm listening to the ticking of the clock. I experienced SP. My body was shaking and a buzzing sound was getting intense. But I kept my calm. After some time, I opened my eyes. I was at the same room. But there were candles at every corner! I RC, The pinch-nose thing worked, the others didn't. I tried another round of RC and all the methods didn't worked! Disturbed, I wandered the house thinking if this is a dream, I tried to control the flame of the candle but it didn't worked. I asked my bro abut the secret pass, he don't know what I was talking about. And there I knew, it was a dream. After I asked my brother, everything melted and i woke up. I had my first lucid dream!
REM generally takes several hours to kick in upon first falling asleep at night. As the night progresses, the REM periods become longer and more frequent. With WBTB, since you are coming off of sleep, your body will already be sufficiently relaxed to immediately start the WILD process. Naps are excellent times to WILD as well, but you may or may not need to perform some sort of relaxation technique before hand. It really just depends on how tired you are for the nap. Both times are excellent for WILDing and it really just depends on personal preference as to which you may like better. For WBTB, perform after at least 4 hours of sleep maybe a bit more. For naps, perform them 1-8 hours after waking in the morning. They can be performed later, but the longer you wait...the more difficult they become.Quote:
Originally Posted by deltz
As for noise, as long as it isn't distracting and you can still sleep with it going on, you are fine. I sleep with a fan on most of the time. I also leave my ps2 on a lot and the ps2 fan generates noise as well. If it doesn't bother you and keep you awake, then it won't make a difference in the WILD process.
Ah, you may want to try to perform your WBTB a little later than after 4 hours if you are feeling too groggy. I would try 5 hours next time. These sharp pains/aggravations are really the reason I discovered my WILD technique. If I start getting these pains, I roll over and change position and they go away. Then I just continue with the process as if I have never moved. You either have to completely ignore these and not let them distract you...or just go ahead and take care of them by rolling to a comfortable position. If you are distracted by them or "fighting them off," you are keeping yourself to active and may struggle to move further along in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripoli
Awesome man!!! Not only was this your first LD, but it was also a successful WILD! Congrats to you and I'm sure this is just the first of many to come. Keep working at it and getting more and more experience. Nice job!Quote:
Originally Posted by weakamon