Thread: Breaking illusions:Sleep paralysis [WILD help (method)]

The more experience I get myself the more this forum helps!

All of the posts on this thread have given me a bit more insight. I can't add much yet, but keep posting this is very helpful

I've never seen much HI and I've never actively attempted to Wild, it just happens where I'm trying to Mild (and only when I'm extremely tired, to the point where I'll fall back asleep in 5-10 seconds) and eventually I'll hear that static tell-tale noise in my ear that means its game time.

I haven't made any efforts in dream recall or LD'ing since about january so I rarely remembered any dreams in the past few months, but I actively started up again 3 days ago and day 1 produced a failed Wild (hit SP), day 2 an LD and day 3 another failed Wild(SP again).

The first one happened during a nap, mid-day I had woken up and you know the feeling where you can barely keep your eyes open cause your so tired your literally about to fall back asleep? When I get that feeling I can wild more than 75% of the time. I tell myself I'm going to have a lucid dream about twice and before I can say it a third time I generally hear that buzzing/static sound in my ear. Reading what Something else mentioned about the trance being cyclical I guess I now realize or believe that because the statics sound came in and then went away about 3 times each time growing longer till I finally entered my dream/SP.

Why I've failed to become lucid with those 2 failed Wild's i can't say, I used to become lucid 99% of the time when I hit SP but since I've come back again it seems my dream logic takes over and wont let me realize that SP is there. I just simply can't move =\ It sucks too because I can literally recall every single action from the moment I told myself I was going to LD, till SP, through the dream and to the moment I woke up recalling every second.

I've only been trying again for 3 days and patience is hard when it comes to stuff like this but hopefully I can figure it out in the next week or so.

Originally Posted by Sniper991122

I've never seen much HI and I've never actively attempted to Wild, it just happens where I'm trying to Mild (and only when I'm extremely tired, to the point where I'll fall back asleep in 5-10 seconds) and eventually I'll hear that static tell-tale noise in my ear that means its game time.

I haven't made any efforts in dream recall or LD'ing since about january so I rarely remembered any dreams in the past few months, but I actively started up again 3 days ago and day 1 produced a failed Wild (hit SP), day 2 an LD and day 3 another failed Wild(SP again).

The first one happened during a nap, mid-day I had woken up and you know the feeling where you can barely keep your eyes open cause your so tired your literally about to fall back asleep? When I get that feeling I can wild more than 75% of the time. I tell myself I'm going to have a lucid dream about twice and before I can say it a third time I generally hear that buzzing/static sound in my ear. Reading what Something else mentioned about the trance being cyclical I guess I now realize or believe that because the statics sound came in and then went away about 3 times each time growing longer till I finally entered my dream/SP.

Why I've failed to become lucid with those 2 failed Wild's i can't say, I used to become lucid 99% of the time when I hit SP but since I've come back again it seems my dream logic takes over and wont let me realize that SP is there. I just simply can't move =\ It sucks too because I can literally recall every single action from the moment I told myself I was going to LD, till SP, through the dream and to the moment I woke up recalling every second.

I've only been trying again for 3 days and patience is hard when it comes to stuff like this but hopefully I can figure it out in the next week or so.

There is pretty a lot of information inbued in your experience. What I like most is, that we are starting to connect our experiences together. Something Else always helps, when it is most needed and it is always passion to share information with him. And as everyone adds his own experience, this topic starts to make sense even more.

I would have one question for your. What about the buzzing sound. Do you hear this kind of sound everytime? And one more question. Do you work with music? Are you composer, or DJ, or audiophile?

Thanx in advance Sniper

Originally Posted by adraw

I would have one question for your. What about the buzzing sound. Do you hear this kind of sound everytime? And one more question. Do you work with music? Are you composer, or DJ, or audiophile?

I am an audiophile got my ATH-A900s headphones and etymotic er-4p ear buds. However thinking about it a bit more I've always had a very slight ringing in my ear that I almost always tune out because its always been there for as long as I can remember. I think the reason I can WILD so easily when I'm very tired is because I let my mind focus in on the ringing in my ear which becomes very loud and intense and while I'm doing that my body falls asleep since it is already 100% relaxed ready to sleep. After focusing on it for a short period of time random weird images enter my thoughts and I do a reality check letting me know I'm dreaming.

My dream journal has 2 WILD's on October 1st that occurred in the morning when I'd woken up momentarily, extremely tired and I heard that sound, focused in on it and entered a lucid dream right off the bat. I fell off the bed in my dream, checked to see if I was dreaming and the lucid ended about 60 seconds later. Quickly wrote that down, focused on the sound and went into a 2nd Wild. This one lasted about 10 minutes.

I had the exact same process happen during a nap today, October 6th. Had 1 WILD that was very short followed by a 2nd WILD that was much longer in duration. I finally learned how to teleport small objects with my mind during that 2nd wild broke past a new barrier I hadn't yet been able to do, quite satisfying.

I don't plan to WILD, I can only do it when I awake from a slumber where I would normally go back to sleep in 10 seconds. It takes a lot of work to get me to go to bed by default so the only times I can WILD are when my body is already 100% relaxed, all I have to do is close my eyes and wait 5 seconds and I'm back to sleep. Those are the moments where I can WILD almost at will every single time. The moments where you wake up and you can barely keep your eye-lids open you are so damn tired.

Ok I was wondering do you have to use tactile sensations to get into WILD? Well I will put it this way: Before I go to sleep I am usually daydreaming about some book I have read/changing and having fun before i go to sleep. Could I do this???

P.S I am constantly daydreaming all day
So I am pretty good at it.

You dont have to do anything, if you are not comfortable with it. The reason, why i mentioned tactile sensation was, that most newby WILDers have problem with body sensations, so its pretty helpful to substitute real body with imagined one. It also somehow helps to speed up the process of WILD. If you are a good daydreamer, some tactile imagination could help improve your daydreams too . Yet it is not necessary.

Ah, I noticed these visualizations too.

I was trying to WILD, but I noticed that when I daydreamed so, it was alot easier to not focus on anything.

I think you are right about the passive observance thing; I was trying to do it with passive observance after I imagined the scene. But every time I did that, I would slip out of it with a jolt, and just go back to my normal awareness.

Thanks for posting, I'll try it tonight!

Originally Posted by Brainstorm

The more experience I get myself the more this forum helps!

All of the posts on this thread have given me a bit more insight. I can't add much yet, but keep posting this is very helpful

Tell me about it. At first. Everything I readed here helped me just a little. But now, as I read the same text again, the same tutorials once more, i find it even more interesting and helpfull. It needs time to develop enough skills to understand whats written in this forums. Till i dont understand, I ask many questions, and sometimes even more