Thread: Sensations and types of entry into WILD

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

If it's anything like what I go through ber5897, then when the "whoosh" sound is at it's most intense, try getting up slowly out of bed. You're probably already in a dream at that point.

But if you're too deep in SP, then perhaps at the height of the "whoosh" sounds, imagine a dream scene unfolding before your eyes.

This is great stuff. The exact entry point is what's most confusing, so personal accounts are invaluable. Keep 'em coming, guys

About the SP - if you can't move your body. If you happen to get paralyzed, that's even better. There is no chance for you to accidentally move your sleeping body, so any experiments you do with moving, will be of your sleeping/astral body.

So if you paralyzed, try and move your arms or legs, without engaging muscles. You can try and reach for a nearby object, or even not so nearby. In dream world, laws of physics don't apply, so you may be able to stretch your arm to distance.

Visualization is also great. While most of the people find it hard to visualize at the beginning of sleep, you will find, that when in the "inbetween stage", images will start to jump into your field of view. You can try and imagine something that is very familiar to you and it may show up.

(Remember, don't wait for SP, or for any sensations, because you may not get it, or will get something else.)

If you in doubt, wheather you are dreaming or awake, do a motionless RC. Think to yourself "if this is a dream, I'm floating up" and imagine yourself doing so. It will not ruin your attempt, in case you are awake.

And hallucinations can get scary, but there is a very good chance that you will have nothing scary happening. It really helps to have happy attitude and thinking of some beautiful place while WILDing.

Thanks for the advice! As gab mentioned about the images jumping into your field of view, I think I did notice that somewhat happening.

Also, I didn't get any hallucinations besides that "whoosh" sound once I was in SP. At first I was completely comfortable with everything. I was just getting paranoid about all of it, hoping that I didn't get any scary hallucinations, even though I do know that it was unlikely. Plus I wasn't sure exactly what to expect since it has never happened before. And just like OpheliaBlue said, everything that I did experience was very cool

Originally Posted by gab

I know what you saying. I'm always in such a rush to jump out of first window, that I fail (forget) to stabilize.

Once I WILDed with this mantra: "Stabilize now!" "Awareness now!" , so as I got lucid, I was still saying it and it helped me to get one of my longer LDs, which was very nice for a change. Maybe this would help you.

Very cool! I think, however, I will have to wait until I get some vibrations until I try any mantra. I usually have to drop the mantras after a while or I stay too awake.

I went to bed listening to some amazing binaural beats last night.
About 30 minutes in, I started experiencing these weird sensations that were listed.
I felt like I was on a roller-coaster, and there was a very strong vibration in my head.
My body was becoming numb and I was sinking into my bed.

I was absolutely terrified, so I woke myself up.
I'm going to try again tonight. No matter how scary the sensations get, I'll go along with 'em!

Originally Posted by DanceLukeDancee

I went to bed listening to some amazing binaural beats last night.
About 30 minutes in, I started experiencing these weird sensations that were listed.
I felt like I was on a roller-coaster, and there was a very strong vibration in my head.
My body was becoming numb and I was sinking into my bed.

I was absolutely terrified, so I woke myself up.
I'm going to try again tonight. No matter how scary the sensations get, I'll go along with 'em!

If you know it's gonna happen, it may not be so scary. I personally love them all dearly.

You may get these sensations before bed, but if you want to have a LD, you should do this after some hours of sleep with WBTB. There may not be any dreams ready for you yet at the beginning of sleep, since first sleep cycle starts with about 80 long NREM. We do dream in NREM, but these dreams are much less vivid, detailed and they are shorter than REM dreams.

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Originally Posted by lee1989

nice guide resolves a few issues i was having

Awesome, glad to hear that

I've experienced all of these but only last night did I get the movie screen type one for the first time.*
I could see it very clear in front of me and knew I was very close to becoming Lucid, but as you say I was just a spectator watching it with no sensation of body.*
I imagined it getting closer and closer to me until it was right up to my face, then I climbed in and as soon as I did, it popped into 3D and I was in my Lucid body.*

Most of mine are a loud buzzing sound in my ears followed by a very strong sensation of flying end over end up into the air, also sometimes accompanied by the sound of laughing or whispering.*
When the sensation stops after about a minute or so, I roll out of my body Lucid.*

Hi, new here. Have been interested in this for a while, but am terribly bad at dream recall (am going to start a journal). However, I naturally have been doing this for about 2-3 years now it's just habit, but it never turns into a lucid dream. It's really a part of my insomnia. I lay down every night and my mind seems to stay awake until my body is completely asleep. I start feeling all of those sensations except the auditory hallucinations and the body distortions. I feel like I'm falling endlessly, or I get waves on waves of vibrations, I feel like I'm floating, but I can NEVER get it to pass on through to a lucid dream. Until the other night, it finally did just on accident, and I was able to fly and was lucid.

What seems to always happen is, as my body is falling deeper and deeper into that state while I'm still awake, I can feel the vibrations and such. I'm not scared, it doesn't bother me, but for some reason my heart rate starts increasing and I reawaken inside my mind which triggers my body to fall out of the vibrations and snap back to my bed.

I wish I could get to the other side...

EDIT: I do get the loud buzzing sound in my ears as I can feel the hairs inside my ears laying down and the sound muffling.

Originally Posted by Mr0Blonde

I've experienced all of these but only last night did I get the movie screen type one for the first time.*
I could see it very clear in front of me and knew I was very close to becoming Lucid, but as you say I was just a spectator watching it with no sensation of body.*
I imagined it getting closer and closer to me until it was right up to my face, then I climbed in and as soon as I did, it popped into 3D and I was in my Lucid body.*

Most of mine are a loud buzzing sound in my ears followed by a very strong sensation of flying end over end up into the air, also sometimes accompanied by the sound of laughing or whispering.*
When the sensation stops after about a minute or so, I roll out of my body Lucid.*

Interesting to hear how different our experiences can be. All of my first WILDs used to be through entering/wishing myself inside the movie/dream. Other sensations/entries started later and it took me the longest time to figure out how to enter via vibrations, flying/falling, and seeing through my closed eyelids.

Now I know, that I can get up/roll out without waiting for any clues. I just get the feel that I'm in a dream and get up.

When I get the flying feeling, it's very organized, I just fly straight, head first. Sometimes as if being dragged over rough surface with pebbless at warp speed (for non-trekkies, that's very fast).

Originally Posted by Ledz99

Have been interested in this for a while, but am terribly bad at dream recall (am going to start a journal). However, I naturally have been doing this for about 2-3 years now it's just habit, but it never turns into a lucid dream. It's really a part of my insomnia. I lay down every night and my mind seems to stay awake until my body is completely asleep. I start feeling all of those sensations except the auditory hallucinations and the body distortions. I feel like I'm falling endlessly, or I get waves on waves of vibrations, I feel like I'm floating, but I can NEVER get it to pass on through to a lucid dream. Until the other night, it finally did just on accident, and I was able to fly and was lucid.

What seems to always happen is, as my body is falling deeper and deeper into that state while I'm still awake, I can feel the vibrations and such. I'm not scared, it doesn't bother me, but for some reason my heart rate starts increasing and I reawaken inside my mind which triggers my body to fall out of the vibrations and snap back to my bed.

I wish I could get to the other side...

Writing dreams in dream journal will help with recall.

Sounds like you are trying to WILD before sleep. You see, the sensations are sign of falling asleep, so you may get those, but if dream is not ready for you yet, you have nothing to enter. On occasion, you may get a WILD with NON-REM dream. But REM dreams are preferred for their length and quality. That's why WILDing is recommended after some hours of sleep, with WBTB.

But you can always try and roll out or get out after these sensations stop. It may seem to you that you are still awake, but a transition into dream can be so smooth, that you will not even notice, and you are already in a dream, laying there and thinking that nothing happened and you failed again.

I used to wait for sensations to be over and then for something else to happen that would allow me to enter a dream. What I failed to realized is that I was already inside of a dream, all I had to do is to get up and walk away from sofa. That move made me realize I'm in a dream and changed the environment into 3D dream with me being inside of it.

Sometimes, on the verge of entering a dream, I do get increased heart rate. If you stay with it just for a bit longer and enter a dream, you will stop noticing it. It's normal, nothing to worry about. Try to ignore it. Happy dreams

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I get pretty much the textbook intense vibrations - Across the whole body, along with the roaring sound of white noise fasing in and out really rapidly, and bright flashing lights in my vision. I even got the feeling that I was travelling very fast along a bumpy road.

But after that, everything stops and I'm just sat in bed, awake? I've done checks after all the times it's happened, and they weren't false awakenings. Any clues as to what I might be doing wrong?

I don't think you are doing anything wrong. It just sounds like your timing was a bit off. You see, you need do fall asleep pretty much at the same time when these sensations show up. Bucause it's totally possible to have them and still be wide awake.

It is a very delicate ballancing game, to be able to fall asleep not a minute sooner, nor later, than when you should. Actually, if you are able to stay in this state longer, than you have a chance to fall asleep and stil get lucid. But it's not easy to stay in this state long.

If this happens next, allow yourself to fall asleep. Since you have concentrated on LD and awareness, there is a good chance you will have a DILD, or you will be comming in and out of the sleep and each time you fall asleep, you have a chance for a WILD. Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Another

I get pretty much the textbook intense vibrations - Across the whole body, along with the roaring sound of white noise fasing in and out really rapidly, and bright flashing lights in my vision. I even got the feeling that I was travelling very fast along a bumpy road.

But after that, everything stops and I'm just sat in bed, awake? I've done checks after all the times it's happened, and they weren't false awakenings. Any clues as to what I might be doing wrong?

I agree with Gab. Your timing is off for entering REM, you are falling asleep, and experiencing symptoms of being in NREM. The gap between starting WILD and reaching REM is too great if you WILD at the beginning of the night.

I would call this a victory honestly. You are right on the verge; essentially you are being cheated. Don't give up and soon you shall go all the way, and like Ctharlhie said, if you are doing this at the start of the night, then don't. When I started out I had no help, so there was no advice and I was attempting to WILD at the start of the night, day after day. I finally managed to get a 2 minute lucid dream for all my hard work. Not worth it. It WAS excellent practice however.

If you are getting the static sounds you are very close indeed.

I can't believe how I would have done this without the internet and this forum... I'd probably be terrified, actually. I've pretty much just combined all the information I could find on this forum!

I have no idea how I'm meant to fall asleep with all that going on, but I'll give it a shot. I reached that stage 3 times in the space of 18 hours... I think I'll just go ahead and take a break before I get a bad headache. Who knew falling asleep could be so tiring? The first time was at the start of the night, and was actually just trying to get some sleep and didn't pass out early enough... second time I freaked out and got up, 3rd time trying to aim for the afternoon REM but timing must have been off.

Whenever I feel my body falling asleep the excitement wakes me up; it's very frustrating. Not trying is a masterful skill.

behind my closed eye a big black darkness took over all my vision that means I'm in a dream? and when this happens what to do?

Originally Posted by GeorgeLevanter

Whenever I feel my body falling asleep the excitement wakes me up; it's very frustrating. Not trying is a masterful skill.

I'm sure you will get used to that and not get too excited. Although I admit, it's not easy. Sometimes it feels involuntary. As if I couldn't help it, but to get excited. But then it's up to me to get it under control fast and calm down. It does get easier the more you try.

Originally Posted by Ziadbadr127

behind my closed eye a big black darkness took over all my vision that means I'm in a dream and when this happens what to do?

Well, you kind of start out with blackness behing closed eyelids. And you can also have it later in the attempt. So it depends on where in you attempt it happens.

if at any time you feel you are in a dream, you can try a few things.

1. Try and move your dream hands or your whole body. You can practice this during day, or as you going to sleep in the evening. Just imagine you moving your hands, without actually sending signals to your muscles to move.

2. Try to transport yourself inside the dream/blackness. I do this by thinking "I am there". But you feel free to find your own method.

3. Try a motionless RC. Think "if this is a dream, I'm levitating" and pretend you are lifting up in the air. You can also practice this during day.

Then, you can either enter the dreamscape that you see behind your closed eyelids (sometimes all you see is darkness, which also could be a dream). Or stand up/roll out of your body into the dream.

Good luck

One question: Is it ok to swallow if you really had the urge too?

Not swallowing/Not moving is not what you should focus on during WILD, so yes, just don't worry about it and fall asleep like you normally do, but while keeping awareness using mental anchor.

Once again, thanks and your awesome gab!!!

Thank you, Lucidhorizon23! Just ask here anything. Happy dreams

So I had a different WILD entry this morning, instead of my usual WBTB/sensing vibrations/start-LD thing. I'd like to share from my DJ. I like how it was more visual than physical this time:

All kinds of new stuff here. First of all, due to some recent family tragedies and issues, I was up until 5:30am. I woke up at 6am, then again at some point, then again at noon. This time when I went back to sleep, I was drifting off and watching some swirly images on the back of my eyelids. I thought to myself, "If I have a lucid dream now, I don't even want to attempt any goals or anything, just a hookup." I felt so mentally and emotionally exhausted, that I didn't even like the idea of any tasks. This has happened to me a few times, happen to any of y'all? Anyway, the swirly images took me straight into a dream then right back out, but the images now looked like my dog Daisy's nose lol. So I just focused on this snout, because somehow it anchored me right into a dream. NO vibrations.. a first for me.

But like my usual WILDs, I started out in my bed...

Whole Dream.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

So I had a different WILD entry this morning, instead of my usual WBTB/sensing vibrations/start-LD thing. I'd like to share from my DJ. I like how it was more visual than physical this time:
Whole Dream.

Oh, my. That's some dream.

About the entry - (to the lucid, so there is no confusion, lol)

I seem to go through cycles, when all, or most of the transitions are visual, or only physical. It is very strange and I have no idea why. So lets see if it does the same for you. I personally like the visual entries better, just because I see what I'm getting myself into. I have a confirmation, a clue, that dream is already there.

When i just vibrate, it's sometimes hard to tell if I'm dreaming yet or should wait longer to enter.

Thanks for sharing. Happy dreams