WILD concept questions..

[Nexi]

Just a simple question. When you attempt a WILD and you enter sleep paralysis, do you start dreaming without being in REM?

[Sivason]

The way it seems to me is that you trick your body into sleeping and then play around day dreaming or picturing simple images or trying to feel yourself move your dream body, and so on until the REM cycle starts. You can learn to make the REM come a little faster but it can take a long time. A typical WILD for me is 20 minutes to SP stage, then 5 more to get vivid hypnogogic image 5 more to be able to influence the images such as feel as if I am walking and seeing rough blurry outlines of things I want to dream about, then a random amount of time say 5 to 45 minutes before REM hits and I walk into the dreams lucid. You can force what I call a low grade LD pre-REM but it will lack any vividness until you do hit REM. I just create a low grade LD and get what fun I can out of it until the full LD happens in REM.

[dms111]

If you manage to wake up during REM you can WILD and fall right back into the same REM period. If you wake up after a REM period you may have to stay conscious through some NREM before you reach the next REM period.

[Sivason]

If you manage to wake up during REM you can WILD and fall right back into the same REM period. If you wake up after a REM period you may have to stay conscious through some NREM before you reach the next REM period. Oh yeah, I agree that a DEILD kind of WILD can work almost instantly, like you say, because you have been in REM at that time already. Great point.

[OneiroMoon]

In REM sleep, the body becomes paralysed to prevent it from acting out dreams. Therefore, you are already in REM sleep when you experience sleep paralysis.