Thread: how do i get from SP to lucid dream?

Originally Posted by svet

I can "achieve" sleep paralysis at will. I could do this long before I found out about lucid dreaming and the role SP plays in it.

My question is, how do I get from sleep paralysis to a lucid dream? When in SP I am aware that I am in SP, and I am aware that the hallucinations I percieve are hallucinations, but the only things I can do from there are snapping awake or relax and fall truly, unconsciously asleep.

When you say hallucinations, you mean closed-eye hallucinations, right? Assuming they are, then what you want to do is focus on the hallucinations as much as you can. Try to imagine your other senses being engaged. So for example, if you're seeing a dog, also try to imagine what the dog feels like when you pet it, or the sounds it makes, etc. If you do this long enough (depending on practice, it may be only a few seconds), the dream will wrap around you and then you're done.

If you're truely in SP, you shouldn't even need to ask (unless your scared to death and can't keep aware/focused). When I am consciously aware of the fact that I'm in SP, whether that be from a WILD or DEILD, all I do is try to remain still, keep my eyes closed and not think to hardly about ANYTHING. I never have to imagine a dream scene and imagine myself moving around or anything most of the time, because usually the dream just comes on by itself. If I am really aware consciously, then I usually end up in a variation of my bedroom, and I get up RC, and enter the LD. Some people use the imagining the dream scene technique, but for now I would recommend you get into SP, and stay in it for about a minute, the dream should come on by itself.

well, the hallucinations are typical sp-hallucinations, like a creepy man sitting in the corner of the bedroom, invisible hands moving me around, sense of dread, good stuff like that. I cannot imagine moving around or petting the old man, because I am paralyzed.

I am no longer scared because I have experienced it so much, and right now i sort of listen what that voice has to say this time until I fall asleep. but there never was a smooth transition from sp to dream for me and in fact I never thought the two were related.

Originally Posted by svet

well, the hallucinations are typical sp-hallucinations, like a creepy man sitting in the corner of the bedroom, invisible hands moving me around, sense of dread, good stuff like that. I cannot imagine moving around or petting the old man, because I am paralyzed.

I am no longer scared because I have experienced it so much, and right now i sort of listen what that voice has to say this time until I fall asleep. but there never was a smooth transition from sp to dream for me and in fact I never thought the two were related.

If you have hallucinations, that means you are in a lucid dream. A lucid dream, which started with you imprisonned in your body, because you expected it to be so. Relaxing yourbody till it gets numb gave your mind a signal saying: hey.. You know what? Lets prepare a dream scene just like the real one, because the consciousness was extremely occupied with getting body numb, so it is probably the thing it wants to dream about. Oh and it didnt want to move, so lets paralyse the dream body too. And it felt a little insecure so lets put some scary metaphors, tofullfil the conscious desire to the last detail.

and at the end you find youself paralysed within your dream body, not able to move, hopeless, and with scary dcs around. You cannot move, how could you? Not a very nice entry into the dream world. But exactly as engineered while falling asleep.

While falling asleep you are constructing your entry dream scene. Its up to you, if you choose to paralyse your dream body resulting in scary, imprissoning SP entry scene, or if you build a more rich dream entry scene while falling asleep.

Forget about getting paralysed. Get free in your mind while falling asleep.

I'm a natural too, and have also only recently learned how to transition into a LD. What I learned is the use of an awareness anchor. To me, it's a particular fantasy I think of before dosing off. It's the same one every time. It's almost like a daydream; you're daydreaming, but if someone were to poke you, you'd feel it anyway. Daydreaming is in that sense sort of an in-between state. I use this daydream to take my mind off the SP and its effects, but I'm still aware of them being there. But they're not my main focus. My focus is on my fantasy 70% and 30% on SP. When I become aware that the SP vibrations have stopped, I know I can let go of the fantasy (or turn it into a dream, but I'd rather not, that would defeat its purpose as an anchor), and into my dream-room I wake up