Thread: need help with sleep paralysis

Originally Posted by Snafu

Do you experience SP, wake up and then go back to sleep and have your dream? Or do you go straight from SP into your dream?

Until only a few days ago I had always had SP (with bad HHs) which I would wake up from and then I would go back to sleep. The other day though I had SP without any HH (which I've never had before) and then entered what I think was a lucid dream although it could just be a really vivid one like you describe?

I've written about what happened in detail over in the 'Newbie Zone'. I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on it! Our experiences sound quite similar.

If I have a vivid SP with HH, I usually have a nightmare. If I hve just intense SP, I lslip right into a dream. But every one of my dreams, at least the ones I remember, have that feeling of 'along for the ride'.
If you could link me to your writings, I'd love to read. <3

Originally Posted by surrealdreams

just acquired a voice recorder i'm going to record my sleep breathing I'll post my results later.

Wouldn't it run out of battery/space overnight?

Originally Posted by NebulaZ

If I have a vivid SP with HH, I usually have a nightmare. If I hve just intense SP, I lslip right into a dream. But every one of my dreams, at least the ones I remember, have that feeling of 'along for the ride'.
If you could link me to your writings, I'd love to read. <3

Yeah, no problem.

Here you go: w w w.dreamviews.com/f20/i-just-had-share-someone-125334/#post1786578 (it's not allowing me to post links so you'll have to remove the spaces between the w's at the start of the link).

I'd be interested to know if your 'nightmares' are similar to mine with the presence in the room?

Originally Posted by Snafu

Yeah, no problem.

Here you go: w w w.dreamviews.com/f20/i-just-had-share-someone-125334/#post1786578 (it's not allowing me to post links so you'll have to remove the spaces between the w's at the start of the link).

I'd be interested to know if your 'nightmares' are similar to mine with the presence in the room?

How about I PM you or something? Seeing as we're straying from the topic. [being a noob I have no idea how strict the mods are about content]...

Originally Posted by Snafu

Do you experience SP, wake up and then go back to sleep and have your dream? Or do you go straight from SP into your dream?

I did this, actually. Worked like a charm, transitioned seamlessly into a dream. When I had the False Awakening, I figured there was a good chance I might be dreaming, so I did a reality check and ohhh yes, I was indeed dreaming

Originally Posted by MissLucy

I did this, actually. Worked like a charm, transitioned seamlessly into a dream. When I had the False Awakening, I figured there was a good chance I might be dreaming, so I did a reality check and ohhh yes, I was indeed dreaming

A 'false awakening'? Presumably that's where you think you're awake but you're actually dreaming?

Dreams can really feel that real?!

Yup, that's what a false awakening is. You think you've woken up, but you haven't. Ever woke up, got dressed, begun to brush your teeth.. ..and then you REALLY wake up, and you have to do it all over again? That's a false awakening.

And yes, mine are always so realistic I actually mistake them for my day beginning. So, I advise you to do a reality check every time you wake up, just to be sure. That way, when you're having a false awakening, you will do it too and you'll realise you're dreaming. I looked at my hand, and my right hand had 6 toes instead of 5 fingers XD

actually the recorder i got can hold up to 500 hours of recording crazy right if you record you're sleep breathing you can enter sleep paralysis more easily.

it's all explained at lucidology.com

Originally Posted by MissLucy

Yup, that's what a false awakening is. You think you've woken up, but you haven't. Ever woke up, got dressed, begun to brush your teeth.. ..and then you REALLY wake up, and you have to do it all over again? That's a false awakening.

And yes, mine are always so realistic I actually mistake them for my day beginning. So, I advise you to do a reality check every time you wake up, just to be sure. That way, when you're having a false awakening, you will do it too and you'll realise you're dreaming. I looked at my hand, and my right hand had 6 toes instead of 5 fingers XD

No way, that's crazy!!

So just to clarify, if I go through SP and then find myself awake in bed and feeling a bit deflated that I haven't entered the dream world, there's a chance that I am actually already in the dream world but it's that real that I think I'm fully awake?!

Sweet. Thanks for the tip!

I'll be sure to always do that check thing you described in future

hello i was wondering i mistake sp for numbness/tingly feelings this is what i get when trying to wild will the numbness/tingly feeling transform into sp if i lay there after my body feels numb/tingly will i eventually enter sp or do i have to do something to put my body in sp ?

The numbness is pretty normal, it does not mean you are entering sp at all. Timing for trying wilds is the only way to really induce sp , you have to attempt it after some hours of sleep and interrupting a rem cycle.

Glad to have helped

This technique has indicated one false awakening since I began doing the Reality Checks every time I wake up (which is about 1 week, I think?) so.. that's a start

okay hears my problem went to bed around 10:00 woke up at 4:00 A.M turned off my alarm got up for 5 minutes got in my bed lied on my back layed there started to feel numbness but thats all no sp i waited an hour what am i doing wrong

This is happening to me, i even interrupt my rem, yet no wild i really need to investigate what im doing wrong.

Your probably way too awake, remember usually there should be no focus and the objective should be to get to sleep. Don't worry it takes practice, but just try to let yourself drift off and stay slightly aware of what's going on!

would this work wake up go back to bed and clear my mind and when i feel like i'm drifting off to sleep count backwards

I'm personally not a big fan of counting, but that could be just me.

What I feel works, is if you feel yourself drifiting off, use the FILD (Finger Induced Lucid Dream).

Dont aim for sp, aim to fall asleep, whilst remaining aware, you will get there in the end.

thanks red up on fild gonna try this tonnight

Sorry if this post is a bit late.

The thing is you need to get ready as you wake up.

This means you do not want to do anything to get your heartbeat up and wake your mind. Do things very slowly and calm.

Also you want to clear your mind with meditation before attempting to get into the hypnagogic imagery.

Remember when your mind is clear and your focus is only on your SUBCONSCIOUS lucidity is a mere obstacle.

Originally Posted by MissLucy

Glad to have helped

This technique has indicated one false awakening since I began doing the Reality Checks every time I wake up (which is about 1 week, I think?) so.. that's a start

Fantastic, cheers mate! I'll be sure to try that every time I wake up after a LD in future!

So you have one LD a week at the moment or one episode of SP?

is this true it's easier to dild than to wild i've been trying to wild and have had no sucess so would didl work better for me

WILD is generally more difficult i think because it involves more self-control and concentration. Also, with DILD you usually don't get all the physical side effects that you do with WILD, SP can be difficult to manage at first and requires practice to get used to. It's definitely a cool experience, but usually beginners find it harder than DILD. It really all depends on the person though. If you've been trying WILD and it's not working, I would try DILD instead, but don't give up on WILD completely. Wait till you get a good number of lucid dreams under your belt and come back to it.