WILD technique goes wrong

**AkiRyuuhane** · 11-14-2011 04:52 PM

Everytime I try this... I get into sleep paralysis and feel like a feather, but right before I might fall asleep for good I can't breathe and my chest is tight. My body is so motionless that I feel my lungs have stopped and out of instinct I need to protect myself so I force my chest to move and the paralysis wears off and I need to try again, but the same thing happens. What to do? I can't just fight off suffocation by not breathing.

**Vitor** · 11-14-2011 05:42 PM

These things do happen in sleep paralysis. You have to go through it to get to the lucid dream.

What you gotta keep in mind is that the sleep paralysis is harmless, but your brain makes it scary.
The sleep paralysis happen every night, but you are unconcious of it.

After you get used to it, you will pop out in a lucid dream easily.

**AkiRyuuhane** · 11-14-2011 05:50 PM

Thanks for the same reply every one gives me, but I've been thoroughly informed of the mechanism of sleep for a long time and regarding lucid dreaming, any other technique goes. I am well aware that it's natural to panic, but I literally don't breathe unless I control my breathing.

**Vitor** · 11-14-2011 05:59 PM

My fisrt sleep paralysis was like that too. Back then, I didn't even know about lucid dreams.
I felt like I couldn't breath.

I guess that after some time, I got used to it.

Another thing is, I used to have sleep paralysis laying with my belly up.
Right now, I know that it's easier to get in paralysis if you stay in the position you usually sleep, since it tricks the brain into believing you are supposed to be asleep.

For me, the position is laying on my side. In this position, it's much more comfortable for me to get in the SP, and that way I don't feel the sufocation.
But if you usually sleep with your belly up, thats probably the way you should go.

Hope you make it!

**AkiRyuuhane** · 11-16-2011 06:32 PM

It had occurred to me to try this next time actually. Once the weekend comes I'll retry going through this hell again. Just one question because this happened only the last time: I was waiting, I was pretty much totally paralyzed except for feeling my chest trying to breathe and with eyes closed I felt like I was spinning though darkness remained, spinning fast and then my eyes started (maybe, that was just my sensation) to move on their own, rapidly. It couldn't have been falling into REM, that's impossible, this occurs after 90 minutes usually, I was still for 10-15 minutes only. Do you feel something like that when you fall asleep in WILD or what do you feel?

**Vitor** · 11-18-2011 12:26 AM

What happens to me:

- It feels like I'm headbanging really fast, even though I know I'm still.
- Sometimes I spin really fast, and when it starts slowing down, the dream is formed around me.

The other option is, the feelings from the paralysis go away and I'm laying on my bed, and that's a false awakening. Just do a reality check and enjoy.

If the second option happens to you, and you wake up on the dark, trying to turn on the light will fail (light switches don't work in dreams). The darkness has already scared me once (I wasn't aware it was a dream, that was one tough nightmare.)

Feeling the eye move is natural, and you don't actually need to wait 90 min to get a REM again. In Laberge's book, he says that as you sleep more and more, the intervals between REM are shorter, and they also get longer (about 30-40 min tops). I have never got such a long dream tho, my lucids last about 5 min no matter what time I get them.