Thread: Some tricky questions for you WILDers

I'll try to answer what I can.

1: It's not absolutely necessery. Some people can WILD right upon going to sleep. It's also possible to WILD during naps. It's just that it makes stuff a lot easier to do it after sleeping while, at the start of a REM cycle.
3: That depends on technique and yourself. If you do it with just lying without moving at all it might take 30 minutes to 2 hours from what I've heard. With techniques where you move normally it should take between 20 minutes to 1 hour. As said, that's from a lot of different stories I heard, but from my own limitted WILD experiences it seems like I can support that myself in terms of how fast I got to hypnagogia. It might be different for you though.
4: You have to be sort of conscious and prepared for it, yet only watch everything that happens. To be honest though that's the advice I got myself sometimes and I can't yet seem to get the grip of it myself.

Your english is absolutely fine though, don't worry about that.

Answers!

1) Not essential, but it doesn't matter anyway because any time you wake up naturally it must be between REM cycles. The only way to wake up during a sleep cycle is with an alarm clock, a loud noise, or some other startling event. So if you don't get woken up by any of these things, then you know you're between cycles.

2) Sounds like false SP to me.

2.5) Neither. Body parts naturally go numb when you stop moving them, even when you're totally awake. You'll know when you're in SP because you'll feel and hear a LOUD buzzing noise, like a power drill to your skull. At least that's what most people experience.

3) About 10-30 minutes. But really, the idea of WILD is to give up immediately and let yourself sleep, but keep the idea of WILD in the back of your mind. It's a fine line to walk.

4) Practice!

A little update: this night I suddenly caught myself awake in my bed. I checked the time, and it was 3:23. Is this a good time for me to WILD, thinking about the fact that I woke up naturally at this time (it rarely happens to me)?

Originally Posted by WDr

A little update: this night I suddenly caught myself awake in my bed. I checked the time, and it was 3:23. Is this a good time for me to WILD, thinking about the fact that I woke up naturally at this time (it rarely happens to me)?

I find that waking up using an alarm is too startling so I never do it to WILD. All of my successful and almost successful WILDs so far have been from having the intent and belief that I will wake up at the perfect time to WILD, and then waking up at the perfect time and then WILDing successfully. This allows me to wake up naturally and I feel much more well rested and confident to have a WILD than from waking up by alarm - from which I don't even want to get up out of my bed to waken myself for the WILD because I'm too tired.

One more update, and a question: I've found a good time to wake up, but I've also met another problem; to avoid falling alseep I count my breaths and this works fine, but when I'm getting to around 80 breaths, it gets really hard to consentrate some tips on how to consentrate better?

Oh, and last night I tried to WILD and I experienced vibrations (!) but after that I only remember driving in and out of space(the dreamscape) when I suddenly was in the dream, lucid. I didn't get HH or SP. was it a WILD, or just a lucid dream because of the lucid dream focus I had before falling asleep?

Originally Posted by WDr

One more update, and a question: I've found a good time to wake up, but I've also met another problem; to avoid falling alseep I count my breaths and this works fine, but when I'm getting to around 80 breaths, it gets really hard to consentrate some tips on how to consentrate better?

I mean, I'm not sure how much focus you're putting into this whole counting thing, but if you're having trouble keeping it up, it's likely too much. So my tip to you would be to find yourself a better anchor which you can stick to without having concentration issues.

Originally Posted by WDr

Oh, and last night I tried to WILD and I experienced vibrations (!) but after that I only remember driving in and out of space(the dreamscape) when I suddenly was in the dream, lucid. I didn't get HH or SP. was it a WILD, or just a lucid dream because of the lucid dream focus I had before falling asleep?

If you enter a dream, directly from a waking state, whilst maintaining lucidity, then it's a WILD.

Not everyone gets HH, and rarely do you find people who get HH on every successful attempt, so that's not something you should be looking for in the first place. That said, your recollection of "driving in and out of space" could likely be considered HH.

As for SP, you aren't going to be completely paralyzed unless REM atonia has hit. As the name suggest, that only comes into play during REM, and at that point you should already be within a dream, so that whole bit of information is a really a misnomer that arose from the confusion between experiences during the progression of N1-3 sleep and the experiences of those who awoke during a REM period with REM atonia still in full effect. Yes, they share similarities, but they are by no means equal, and the latter tends to be consistently terrifying (to a whole different degree), while the former's 'scare factor' is really dependent on any HH that may or may not occur.