I'm all against opiates though :cheeky:
Seriously though, that shit can ruin lives....
I would be to if it didnt grab ahold of me three years ago. I was taking it on and off for three years, and im trying to kick it for good now. At least I never have or never will touch heroin or a needle. But pain pills are just as bad. It hasn't really ruined my life, but it has changed me. I feel so weak because I let this happen to me. Well im only 22, so I can change and im not gonna let this shit run my life. I started up again almost a year ago when I injured my lower back. But im scared of the withdrawal, because I've already gotten a taste of it a few time now, and its much worse than I've ever has. I shouldn't say ever, because i contemplated suicide 2 years ago from severe depression after quitting. Alright that's enough about that lol. You can see that that shit is the devil from my personal experience.
08-17-2011, 01:56 AM
pepolshet
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Originally Posted by NrElAx
I would be to if it didnt grab ahold of me three years ago. I was taking it on and off for three years, and im trying to kick it for good now. At least I never have or never will touch heroin or a needle. But pain pills are just as bad. It hasn't really ruined my life, but it has changed me. I feel so weak because I let this happen to me. Well im only 22, so I can change and im not gonna let this shit run my life. I started up again almost a year ago when I injured my lower back. But im scared of the withdrawal, because I've already gotten a taste of it a few time now, and its much worse than I've ever has. I shouldn't say ever, because i contemplated suicide 2 years ago from severe depression after quitting. Alright that's enough about that lol. You can see that that shit is the devil from my personal experience.
Be strong man, I'm sending you positive vibes over the internet :P
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Originally Posted by LikesToTrip
I tried WILDing on a small dose of shrooms and found it impossible to fall asleep. I would think it would been even less likely you would be able to sleep on Acid. I agree with Ninja, just have a nice meditative trip and enjoy the CEVs. They should be equally, if not more, entertaining and introspective than a lucid.
And out of curiosity, how do you know you will be taking 100-200µg?
I think I might try some other drugs which are said to be a little more effective, I am still positive about my feeling towards getting in to that state of mind for WILD using LSD.
I know the doses because I know the doses :P, not going to incriminate myself.
I've been quite busy and didn't have time taking drugs and it wasn't very safe since I'm driving a 22 thousand pound truck and didn't want to get a flashback and risk everyone on the road. Since I will be setting at home for a week I think I will try that in a few days.
08-17-2011, 02:28 AM
NrElAx
Thanks man. Lucid dreaming is a good escape, and also gives me better views on life and myself. Its funny, I dont.look like an addict at all, but I guess some dont.
08-17-2011, 07:01 PM
GodChild
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Originally Posted by StonedApe
Please show your evidence that psychedelic drugs are harmful to the body in the long term.
If you don't know what your talking about it would be best to keep your mouth shut. Or maybe ask a question rather than making an assertion based on propaganda that all drugs are bad(which is absurd, almost all of us use drugs, either recreationally or medicinally. Drugs have many benefits and when used rather than abused can provide one with a higher quality of life).
There have been studies that have shown that psychedelic drugs can be beneficial to one's psychological health in the long term. They can facilitate insight into conditioned behavior, a problem 99.9% of us have. I myself have experienced this, I would be less healthy if it weren't for experiences I've had on drugs. They've helped me to see the value in all things in life. They've also influenced me to change my diet significantly. I'm now a vegetarian and don't eat any processed food, except on occasion, maybe once or twice a year.
They're value changing drugs as George Carlin put it.
Our culture forcefully imbues very ugly and foolish values into people. People need to question these values, or any values they have for that matter.
Sorry to go off on such a tangent but it bothers me when people speak out of ignorance and act like they're just trying to make the world a better place. Good intentions aren't worth anything if you don't have any intelligence or effort behind them.
I couldn't agree with you more brotha. Bravo.
-Nate
08-19-2011, 11:17 PM
Sugabombs
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Originally Posted by pepolshet
So you make fun of other people drug habits, huh? What a tough girl.
You think I was joking? No I actually think you are a bad-ass! Really, I mean wow taking drugs when you know that it leaves permanent mental & physical damage on your body I mean wow. So cool.
Grow the fuck up.
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Originally Posted by nrg
Do you drink coffe, tea or alcohol maybe smoke cigs? Gues what ... those are also drugs
Coffee? No, never did like the taste. Tea? No, it goes against my diet because of the amount of sugar I would have to put in. Alcohol? Not anymore. Cigarettes? Do people still actually smoke? Wow that's pretty embaressing.
To maintain a healthy body I don't use any of those "drugs" (Tea? Are you kidding? One of the things mankind has tampered with the least!). I do however, take one or two aspirins once in a while. I guess that makes me an addict in your eyes?
08-19-2011, 11:29 PM
flipsyde
Guys, cant we all just get along? We are the dreamers. We are above this.
08-19-2011, 11:42 PM
GodChild
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Originally Posted by Sugabombs
You think I was joking? No I actually think you are a bad-ass! Really, I mean wow taking drugs when you know that it leaves permanent mental & physical damage on your body I mean wow. So cool.
Grow the fuck up.
Coffee? No, never did like the taste. Tea? No, it goes against my diet because of the amount of sugar I would have to put in. Alcohol? Not anymore. Cigarettes? Do people still actually smoke? Wow that's pretty embaressing.
To maintain a healthy body I don't use any of those "drugs" (Tea? Are you kidding? One of the things mankind has tampered with the least!). I do however, take one or two aspirins once in a while. I guess that makes me an addict in your eyes?
i think it's very funny and hypocritical when people say 'grow the fuck up'. and how did you come to the conclusion that taking drugs leaves permanent mental & physical damage? personal experience? if not, speak for yourself because you don't know what you are talking about. You seem pretty against Psychedelics but you were a drinker? You might want to double check which one does the damage...
08-20-2011, 01:10 AM
Darkmatters
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Originally Posted by Sugabombs
Tea? Are you kidding? One of the things mankind has tampered with the least!
lolwut
So, it's not a drug unless it's manmade or 'tampered with" by man? Good to know. So cannabis and shrooms are perfectly fine then.
08-20-2011, 02:45 AM
NrElAx
Well LSD has fucked with some peoples minds, but most of the time they might already be prone to mental illnesses. But I know people can get messed up mentally from LSD. I dont care if people try it for lucid dreaming, if someone wants to take LSD, then that's none of my business and im fine with it. Im not a big anti drug person because I have done drugs before as you can see from my other posts, im trying to kick a pain pill addiction. So i can't really bash on drugs. So im not gonna go talk shit about people taking LSD because its none of my business. You can do whatever you please to and i can't stop you. I live in the US and its a free country. I mean the drug is illegal, but if you get it, then you have the freedom to do as you will with it.
Also, I dont like it when people compare something like tea and caffeine to other schedule l or ll drugs. Tea and caffeine don't alter ones mind as much as, lets say LSD or strong amphetamines. Its already been proven that at the right doses caffeine can have some benefits. But that's not true fro everyone. And tea, that's mostly pretty healthy and I say pretty healthy because some teas also have high levels of caffeine and taking too much isn't always healthy.
08-20-2011, 08:17 AM
nina
Guys remember that you have the right to disagree but being disrespectful to your fellow forumites will land you on the Island for Misfit Members.
08-20-2011, 08:31 AM
Darkmatters
Whoah... I haven't been paying attention to this thread... a couple things I should respond to.
@ pepolshet - I wasn't referring to you back on page 1 when I made the trolling comment... it was directed at the two people who posted right above me, who basically just popped in on a thread about LSD to say LSD is bad, with no facts to back it up.
@ NrElAx - Oh man - so sorry to hear about your addiction problems!! That's terrible! I hope you're able to kick it, and soon!! Stay strong brotha!!
08-20-2011, 09:17 AM
NrElAx
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Originally Posted by nina
Guys remember that you have the right to disagree but being disrespectful to your fellow forumites will land you on the Island for Misfit Members.
I hope your not referring to me, because I was just trying to say I didnt like harder drugs being compared to tea and caffeine. Besides that, Im not talking any crap about people using LSD because they have the right to take whatever they want. All my buddies smoke weed and take shrooms, and i dont. So I have no problem with people taking any kind of drug. Especially weed because i use to smoke all the time.
08-20-2011, 11:39 AM
nina
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Originally Posted by NrElAx
I hope your not referring to me, because I was just trying to say I didnt like harder drugs being compared to tea and caffeine. Besides that, Im not talking any crap about people using LSD because they have the right to take whatever they want. All my buddies smoke weed and take shrooms, and i dont. So I have no problem with people taking any kind of drug. Especially weed because i use to smoke all the time.
Then why would you think I was referring to you? Obviously I'm not, don't worry. :P
08-23-2011, 01:44 PM
pepolshet
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Originally Posted by Sugabombs
You think I was joking? No I actually think you are a bad-ass! Really, I mean wow taking drugs when you know that it leaves permanent mental & physical damage on your body I mean wow. So cool.
Grow the fuck up.
Coffee? No, never did like the taste. Tea? No, it goes against my diet because of the amount of sugar I would have to put in. Alcohol? Not anymore. Cigarettes? Do people still actually smoke? Wow that's pretty embaressing.
To maintain a healthy body I don't use any of those "drugs" (Tea? Are you kidding? One of the things mankind has tampered with the least!). I do however, take one or two aspirins once in a while. I guess that makes me an addict in your eyes?
I'm fucking high right now :D TROLOLOL
Personally I've found my addiction to cigarettes a lot more strong than any other type of drug, but then again I've never used anything other than non-addictive psychedelics. Life always seemed a lot more fun while smoking but I'm clean for 8 months now gotta stay healthy brah :D
08-23-2011, 07:32 PM
NrElAx
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Originally Posted by nina
Then why would you think I was referring to you? Obviously I'm not, don't worry. :P
I thought that sense you posted after me you might have been talking about me. But you would have posted after me no matter what lol
11-30-2011, 01:11 PM
pepolshet
Sorry to bump an old topic but did anyone ever experiment with DMT and lucid dreaming?
11-30-2011, 04:30 PM
cmind
StonedApe, although you're correct that psychs are not directly harmful and can sometimes lead to greater self knowledge and appreciation for life, they're still not to be taken lightly. And certainly not to be taken for entertainment purposes, which is what seems to be the intention of the OP. Psychs will reciprocate the level of respect you give them, so if you treat them as some sort of dream enhancer, you'll be burned. An unprepared trip is a bad trip. And yes, I know from experience.
12-01-2011, 06:52 AM
LabRat
LSD induces a state and feelings of "wakefulness" i.e. You feel like youre dreaming, anyway. Whats the point?
Take acid, trip balls. Sweet.
Lucid dream, sweet.
Take acid and fall asleepto TRY LD? Why?
12-01-2011, 07:22 AM
LikesToTrip
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Originally Posted by pepolshet
Sorry to bump an old topic but did anyone ever experiment with DMT and lucid dreaming?
I've wanted to experiment with this, but haven't ever had enough to do much with other than trip a couple times. My roommate has been talking to someone who has extracted it before and might do it again soon. If I can get copious amounts from him I will definitely try it out.
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Originally Posted by LabRat
LSD induces a state and feelings of "wakefulness" i.e. You feel like youre dreaming, anyway. Whats the point?
Take acid, trip balls. Sweet.
Lucid dream, sweet.
Take acid and fall asleepto TRY LD? Why?
Yea, sleeping on acid is a no go... Even after I've come down it takes a few hours before my mind quiets down enough to sleep. WILDing on acid wouldn't be possible...
12-05-2011, 01:25 AM
ryndisher
Smoke Weed!
12-05-2011, 02:14 AM
LabRat
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Originally Posted by ryndisher
Smoke Weed!
I dont want to sound like a stoner or anything, but yeah, Weed gives me some vivid, crazy-ass dreams haha.
12-07-2011, 11:30 AM
Duncan
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Originally Posted by cmind
StonedApe, although you're correct that psychs are not directly harmful and can sometimes lead to greater self knowledge and appreciation for life, they're still not to be taken lightly. And certainly not to be taken for entertainment purposes, which is what seems to be the intention of the OP. Psychs will reciprocate the level of respect you give them, so if you treat them as some sort of dream enhancer, you'll be burned. An unprepared trip is a bad trip. And yes, I know from experience.
^^^^ This.
LSD is an extremely powerful drug which alters the way you think. It needs to be treated with due care and anyone considering taking it really needs to make an informed decision. Although the chances are minimal there IS a risk of drug induced psychosis occuring. While people more vulnerable to mental disorder are most likely the ones at risk, why take the chance? You have to understand what you are gambling with. In saying this, chances are if you havn't had any trouble with psychedelics you arent about to any time soon and thats fine if you really want that lifestyle.
There are safer ways to gain insightful experiences, and I am a firm believer they can be equally as rewarding. Meditation and Lucid dreaming being the two big ones for me.
It is a nice feeling being healthy, and personally being under the influence of drugs makes me feel quite the opposite. Admittedly it took me a long time to realise this, but I am glad I did.
Just remember you only have one chance at "all of this" (cheesey yeah yeah I know but it's true)
Im a big fan of the whole 'each to his own' deal so long as people are safe, informed and happy.
My $.02
#PersonalExperience
Dunc.
P.s Don't do Heroin or Meth.
Seriously.
12-08-2011, 11:41 AM
Sasso
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Originally Posted by Sugabombs
You think I was joking? No I actually think you are a bad-ass! Really, I mean wow taking drugs when you know that it leaves permanent mental & physical damage on your body I mean wow. So cool.
Grow the fuck up.
Coffee? No, never did like the taste. Tea? No, it goes against my diet because of the amount of sugar I would have to put in. Alcohol? Not anymore. Cigarettes? Do people still actually smoke? Wow that's pretty embaressing.
To maintain a healthy body I don't use any of those "drugs" (Tea? Are you kidding? One of the things mankind has tampered with the least!). I do however, take one or two aspirins once in a while. I guess that makes me an addict in your eyes?
Ahhh the ever frustrating gap of understanding between people who have had experiences of perturbed brain chemistry and those that have not.
12-08-2011, 08:44 PM
LabRat
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Originally Posted by Sugabombs
You think I was joking? No I actually think you are a bad-ass! Really, I mean wow taking drugs when you know that it leaves permanent mental & physical damage on your body I mean wow. So cool.
Grow the fuck up.
Coffee? No, never did like the taste. Tea? No, it goes against my diet because of the amount of sugar I would have to put in. Alcohol? Not anymore. Cigarettes? Do people still actually smoke? Wow that's pretty embaressing.
To maintain a healthy body I don't use any of those "drugs" (Tea? Are you kidding? One of the things mankind has tampered with the least!). I do however, take one or two aspirins once in a while. I guess that makes me an addict in your eyes?
Wait.. So.. you WERE kidding? :lol:
What people do to their own brains and bodies is surely their own decision? Stop lecturing bro, it's uncool. Even more so than taking drugs.. :shadewink:
12-08-2011, 10:25 PM
LikesToTrip
Back on topic! I've recently acquired some stuffs.. I'll be taking a moderate dose in just a few hours, and at the moment I'm feeling sleepy. I plan on meditating, and then taking it and falling asleep before I come up. Hopefully I enter a dream before it hits me and I'll have an interesting experience to share. I imagine it will just wake me up though.
