WILD before sleep?

**LucidApprentice** · 06-07-2011 08:53 AM

This happened to me tonight, and I wondered if anyone else has experienced similar.

I laid down around 11pm and starting seeing random images like usual. For whatever reason, these mental pictures became very scary. I started to feel vibrations and one of the strange scenes becomes much more vivid. After hearing screaming, I fall into bed. I am then attacked by a vicious dog and thrown into some ancient city.

While being lucid was fun, the WILD overall was awful and left me wide awake. Has anyone else here had bad experiences with WILDing before sleep?

**KingYoshi** · 06-07-2011 10:26 AM

The hallucination during SP can sometimes be a bit frightening in general. It really doesn't matter if it is before sleep or during a WBTB. Just always keep in mind that these are only hallucinations and you cannot be harmed in any way. Just observe them as if you are watching a movie and don't think twice about the scary stuff. If something is too unpleasant, you can simply ignore it and it will soon go away. Congrats on your lucidity and good luck to you in the future. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask!

**Desert Claw** · 06-07-2011 11:48 AM

Wait, what? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought SP was in the later stages of sleep? How can someone experience it first thing, when it doesn't start until at least 4 hours into the sleep cycle?

**Reclypso** · 06-07-2011 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Desert Claw

Wait, what? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought SP was in the later stages of sleep? How can someone experience it first thing, when it doesn't start until at least 4 hours into the sleep cycle?

Lack of sleep, drugs, an REM rebound from previous nights, sleep disorder?
And I don't think you can experience it first thing, instead you just move through the stages faster and get there quicker.

**Thorim** · 06-07-2011 01:44 PM

I think it is wrong that people always mention WILDing would be impossible before sleeping. I think its far more easy when you slept already, but when you are tired enough or concentrate/meditate enough it is possible in fact. And I experienced some VERY scary SP's (after sleeping) and each time I was very glad that I had knowledge of these sensations from dv, otherwise it would really scare the shit out of me. i once saw a giant face coming from the ceiling and screaming at me, was damn freaky. But I think when you know about SP and that it can lead to lucid dreaming it is rather exciting in a positive way (for me at least).