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      I got jipped

      WTF. I just bought a "1TB" hard drive, but in fine print it says that it's 1000GB. When did it become alright to pass 1000GB off as 1TB.

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      isnt one terabyte the same as 1,000gb.

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      since the SI got involved

      Apparently, it was confusing to people that the standard metric multipliers (kilo, mega, giga, etc. - based on 10^3) were being used for binary multipliers (based on 2^10)

      it officially changed some years ago
      with new prefixes for binary derived values

      Kilo = 10^3 = 1,000 = 1kb
      Mega = 10^6 = 1,000,000 = 1Mb
      Giga = 10^9 = 1,000,000,000 = 1Gb
      etc.

      Kibi = 2^10 = 1,024 = 1Kib
      Mebi = 2^20 = 1,048,576 = 1Mib
      Gibi = 2^30 = 1,073,741,824 = 1Gib
      etc.

      I can sort of see their point
      Traditionally, a kilobit is only called a kilobit cause it happens to be quite close to the decimal value of kilo - 1000 Vs. 1024

      As for the size of disks,
      manufacturers did this anyway (even before the new standards)
      down the bottom of the box, in fine print was always a disclaimer that numbers were quoted based on decimal notation, not binary

      but anyway
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      Yeah, recently 1 terabyte (TB) has usually meant 1000^4 bytes, while 1 tebibyte (tera binary byte -- TiB) has meant 2^40 or 1024^4 bytes. That's for hard drives. For RAM, people tend to use gigabyte to mean gibibyte or 1024 MiB of RAM.

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      Another fun fact: it's "gypped," not "jipped," and it's an ethnic slur against the Romany people. Don't worry about it, though, most of them died in the Holocaust.
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      Dammit, why wasn't I notified. So wait, the 4GB of RAM in my computer is 4 billion bytes? Not 2 ^ 30?

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      Yeah, and don't forget that formatted it's going to be closer to 930Gb. Definitely somethingto factor in when buying a new HDD.

      Out of curiosity, what drive did you get? Also, internal or external? I'm thinking about picking up a 1Tb external drive for my laptop, and have just about settled on a LacIE 301315U1TB for the eSATA/Firewire/USB options.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Dammit, why wasn't I notified. So wait, the 4GB of RAM in my computer is 4 billion bytes? Not 2 ^ 30?
      No,
      4Gb RAM = 2^32 bytes

      Ram is a collection of binary digits arranged in a square, and therefore has to be (by nature) some power of 2

      You cannot get 4 billion bytes of memory, as the square root of 4 billion is not an integer

      rotational disks, on the other hand, are a collection of binary digits arranged in concentric circles over many platters, and can be any arbitrary number
      There are no geometric constraints on rotational disks
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