Thread: Monthly Task Off Topic.

As I last recall we were discussing folks getting cranky when they don't get their monthly lucid.
Then there was something about Galantamine & Alpha GPC which I just ordered, I have a drawer full of various Nootropics... I'll try that too.

I kind of like the clutter in the TOTM thread, it's sort of a nice clubby feeling.

I did an RC last night during my "Squids of New York" dream as I watched the giant squids pulling themselves around the shoreline, but didn't get lucid, bah!

My favorite stack is 4mg galantamine, 300mg Alpha GPC, 300mg choline bitartrate. But I take them all at once. The gab approach of alpha gpc first and then G 2nd 2 hours later sounds promising. If I get back to sleep the dreams are astounding. But 19/20 I don't unless it's like 7 hours later. I don't think I've once been asleep when G hits its peak, that's a shame, maybe if I do I won't wake up when the "Fun" starts.

nice idea, let's see how long we can keep this thread active :-)
So Lucid aids... I am at a point where I would love to try galantamine. But in Germany you can't get it without prescription and when you order it in England or USA it needs weeks (months) and will probably caught by customs...
I thought about to ask one of you dv member if they could send me some via normal letter/package... Dunno

Honestly, every time I try galantamine I swear to myself "this is the last time" (mostly because of my 95%+ insomnia rate with it). I've had LDs just as good and even better without it. With your LD rate, RelaxAndDream, you don't need it!

yea i know and a long time i was like "hell no aids, i can do it on my own." but reading about the level and lenghts and detail you can reach with G sounds very interesting. i think i know how to induce lucidity and have some decent control over my lucids but have a next level lucid would be interesting

and nothing to do with aids but if i want to (like in comps) i can get pretty regular lucid but somehow my "natural" status is only maybe twice a week... but i really do not much of daywork what is sad but somehow i cant figure out the amount of daywork to see results and stay constant with it... i somehow cant reach the "one lucid a night" rate constantly ...

*smallest violin in the world, playing for you*

Seriously though, you're doing great! I'm happy these days to average more than one per week. Once a night+, that's the goal, I'll get there....couple more years perhaps. Feeling pretty good right now, had 10 in September, 4 so far in Oct., despite very bad waking life interference, and for once, I seem to be hitting the top of the recall curve when a competition starts, yay!

If Omega 3 is good for you we sure otter be a healthy lot....
If you look around most of this stuff is already in your refrigerator:
I never heard too much about G and insomnia until after I ordered it. They will likely last several years like everything else in my drawer. Nothing ever lasts more than a night then it's a week off or something else except for one old standby..If my recall gets too bad I can use just 3 fish oil pills but a can of sardines in mustard sauce gets the ball rolling too...There is no way it can harm you,..

Originally Posted by FryingMan

I kind of like the clutter in the TOTM thread, it's sort of a nice clubby feeling.

I like the clutter too so this is just to take up the overflow/.

Hi guys did any of you order your sups from Dreamamins ?...or maybe you could check it out see what you think ~ i am in UK, sometimes on the edge of trying something like RelaxAndDream said - hey RelaxAndDream surly we can order from anywhere in the world these days and it gets to us in a week right? Let me know if you do

Anyway cheers to the overflow thread and the totm thread

Oh yes about crankiness - oh yeah I really feel it when I don't get one a week - sometimes get a couple a week and sometimes goes into 2 weeks depending on what going on in life - that LD keeps me good every time ...it really is a mood stabiliser

Originally Posted by Patience108

Hi guys did any of you order your sups from Dreamamins ?...or maybe you could check it out see what you think ~ i am in UK, sometimes on the edge of trying something like RelaxAndDream said - hey RelaxAndDream surly we can order from anywhere in the world these days and it gets to us in a week right? Let me know if you do

Anyway cheers to the overflow thread and the totm thread

Oh yes about crankiness - oh yeah I really feel it when I don't get one a week - sometimes get a couple a week and sometimes goes into 2 weeks depending on what going on in life - that LD keeps me good every time ...it really is a mood stabiliser

Don't order dream anything from Dream anybody, They're all a rip off, We Dreamers were here a long time before get rich quick scams were invented.. (Centuries before) It's been going on for thousands of years before internet scam's were thought of!
Stay with people that are trustworthy, Like "Amazon UK"..or other reputable retailers !

I love this thread! :cheers everybody:

Recall

I have noticed, that when in the middle of the night I have to switch the place I sleep in, I can 9 times out of 10 recall 1-3 detailed dreams. And I recall them not only when I wake up at night, but also in the morning.

I am not sure if it's because I switch place, or the act of waking up and falling asleep again. Because I do that normally to use the restroom. I do have pretty good recall when I drink water to wake up few times, but I think it's even more consistent when I also switch the place. This was an accidental discovery when back pain woke me up 4 hrs into sleep and I couldn't continue sleeping flat on the bed. I had to go sleep on the sofa which has a raised headpart and I have 2 pillows on top of that. So I'm not laying down flat, but propped up at maybe 40 degree angle.

Yep, more wakings = more, detailed recall. Setting intention to "notice every waking, remain still & recall my dreams," what I call "the nuclear option" leads to massive recall, but it's tiring if sustained over long periods. I stopped doing it as my "every night" approach after my first 3 months of practice. I'm however apparently back to a consistent "wake at 5 hours" rhythm that gives me 2 main recall periods. I'll sometimes still remember dreams from earlier cycles. I've been doing my "mental DJing" for so long now that it's a habit. Leads to more recall, but generally less sleep and more risk of insomnia.

One alternative to supplements is already in your refrigerator..
This is a recall trick that I learned years ago in Astral Projection studies from the words of a Monk along with various Mantras.

"Make your breakfast of the acid fruit and Almonds ground with the Honey of the Bee"

I found that meant half an Orange or juice (room temperature), as few as a half dozen Almonds and a Tablespoon of honey before going back to bed to WILD,MILD, (or Mildew) ....
I think we got into some talk about it on DV but it was so long ago it may have been forgotten..

I fixed the witch that took my parking spot, I fixed her a few times over, Fixed my pajamas also

Still gotta write it up off the recorder.....

My first Galantamine dream I found not much different than with some much cheaper supplements but it's just the first try too.
I went back to bed about 4:30am after taking Galantamine expecting to have a hard time going to sleep remembering "Gab" had mentioned some difficulties with it....As it happened while I was thinking about doing the remaining tasks I fell asleep and found myself in the dream so quickly I lost Lucidity for the most part and instead of bringing someone back from 200 years ago and going to an art gallery I went back 200 years to an art show and brought somebody back but non-lucid. The dreams were more colorful and vivid than they have been lately.
The dreams I put on the TOTM thread.. http://www.dreamviews.com/tasks-mont...ml#post2205481 but i"ll put them here too..

Basic I and Advanced I fail..

1st dream.
There were a lot of fancy people in front of an art show, It was an open air building like a cut in half house and very colorful decorated like a ginger bread house. The people were mostly outside talking and gesturing dressed very fancy if you can picture a Captain Morgan Bottle, 17th century at best.
Men with long plumage in their hats and women in feathered dresses and flowerd hats all very bright and colorful. They paid no mind to me at all like I was either invisible or I was a pauper not worth any attention. Inside there were a few paintings on the back and side walls but not many people exept in front of a big painting of a brightly dressed,fat,ugly woman which I could see no reason to fuss over..
I knew I was supposed to bring back someone but the only person I saw worth bothering with was a small girl in a frilly white dress, The rest looked like idiots in their finery so I asked the girl to come with me for a while and we took off for elsewhere but when she saw her first car she pee'd and every time she saw something else she pee'd and I had to pee too and woke up...
A far as I know the little girl is still around here somewhere maybe watering your flower garden

2nd dream 7am
I was eating chicken soup, Good stuff too! I was chewing on a tough piece of chicken giving a it real working over because it was so good, spitting out tough gristly parts I found I was gnawing on the stub of a chicken foot with one toe already eaten and set it on the table still standing up all yellow and nice then stood up away from the table and woke up...

No wonder Gab likes that Galantamine.. It's sex dream pills is what it is

Originally Posted by woblybil

No wonder Gab likes that Galantamine.. It's sex dream pills is what it is

Oh, I never heard that before ~ so it makes you feel raunchy or just enhances the feelings in you already?

Originally Posted by Patience108

Oh, I never heard that before ~ so it makes you feel raunchy or just enhances the feelings in you already?

Made for 3 separate sex dreams scenes in one nap..One being a food dream where the food was giggling

11/04
11:30am I was in a dream scene standing under a ramp with an opening above my head, There was a long line of women wearing white hospital type gowns walking up the ramp over me and each one in turn squatted over my head while I sprayed dyed it green, Then she stood up and moved forward and the next one squatted and no matter the color when they came it were green when they left and it didn't even seem odd to me, Like it was just a job I was supposed to do and it continued for several minutes before the scene changed to another hospital scene with a nurse faking hurt her ankle so I would help her to a bed but I had to beat off half a dozen other nurses in varying stages of ripping their own clothes off trying to help me help her before I finally got her undressed alone (or it would have been an orgy) and onto a bed where I finally helped her with her problem, And this on for three scenes each better than the previous and in the last one I had to eat on the run and can't even post it..All in one nap after 2X4mg Galantamine and 2X100mg B-6...

Originally Posted by woblybil

Made for 3 separate sex dreams scenes in one nap..One being a food dream where the food was giggling

11/04
11:30am I was in a dream scene standing under a ramp with an opening above my head, There was a long line of women wearing white hospital type gowns walking up the ramp over me and each one in turn squatted over my head while I sprayed dyed her pussy hair green, Then she stood up and moved forward and the next one squatted and no matter the color when they came they were green when they left and it didn't even seem odd to me, Like it was just a job I was supposed to do and it continued for several minutes before the scene changed to another hospital scene with a nurse faking hurt her ankle so I would help her to a bed but I had to beat off half a dozen other nurses in varying stages of ripping their own clothes off trying to help me help her before I finally got her undressed alone (or it would have been an orgy) and onto a bed where I finally helped her with her problem, And this on for three scenes each better than the previous and in the last one I had to eat on the run and can't even post it..All in one nap after 2X4mg Galantamine and 2X100mg B-6...

Ok ~ it works Does it work just as well for more...say transcendental experiences?

Originally Posted by Patience108

Ok ~ it works Does it work just as well for more...say transcendental experiences?

Wait a minute, I'll be right back !
Ok Im back, I had to google that..."A transcendental function is an analytic function that does not satisfy a polynomial equation"...Now I understand perfectly!

Anyways, The answer is "I dont know" It's only the second time I used it if that helps, Maybe ask Gab, She has used it more

Originally Posted by FryingMan

Honestly, every time I try galantamine I swear to myself "this is the last time" (mostly because of my 95%+ insomnia rate with it). I've had LDs just as good and even better without it. With your LD rate, RelaxAndDream, you don't need it!

I have a similar insomnia problem with G. I've tried a longer WBTB with it, and also tried to stay tired and groggy to get back to sleep before it kicks in, but I always lay awake for hours.
I hardly ever use it now.

Originally Posted by woblybil

Wait a minute, I'll be right back !
Ok Im back, I had to google that..."A transcendental function is an analytic function that does not satisfy a polynomial equation"...Now I understand perfectly!

Anyways, The answer is "I dont know" It's only the second time I used it if that helps, Maybe ask Gab, She has used it more

Haha yes I might sound a bit pompous or something but you know what I mean I think it would be interesting to hear if gab or anyone has used G for dream work concerning spiritual growth ( I know sex is good so I am sure I will enjoy that part of it but looking to more meaningful stuff too )

it's all good fun anyway!

Originally Posted by obfusc8 View Post
Advanced II - Asked a DC to show me a new method of dream control. So apparently if you draw a red cross on a tea-bag, then lie on the floor and stare at it, you will astrally project and/or then become permanently invisible like Hollow Man.

Hollow Man/

Hey...You never know! I've seen some pretty funny ways of AP'ing..
Personal favorite AP is after a half hour of good meditation music or beats is to turn off the lights, stare at a candle flame in the dark then put it out, Stare at the red spot in front of my eyes after until it zooms in and to surround me or pass thru it and i'm on my way..If no AP it makes for interesting dreams anyways..........
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PS, I'll just ad this here three hours later..
11/06
3:30am Just after explaining here how to AP easily I tried it but without the candle and turned it into an instant lucid dream.
I'll just put it over here! http://www.dreamviews.com/tasks-mont...er-2016-78434/
And that's what I meant about making for interesting dreams

Obfusc8 and you Worblybil got me thinking about AP aswell and I worked on it this morning a bit ( not with your level of success though - inspiring! )- they say you have to work on a practice every day then it can start to become more natural. It is my intention to start working it in to my mornings now again now as it's such an impowering way to travel Do you travel much this way?