Thread: The 100-hour no-sleep challenge.

Originally Posted by Signet

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I'm a little confused by your wording...

Sorry, but as you can see, i am italian ^^" Simply i want to ask: when you are too tired, you fall asleep, true? Or is it possible to stay awake so much that you ruin your health?

You will eventually just pass out. You can't stay up long enough to hurt yourself. It is actually worse for your health to sleep too little every night (less than 6 hours) than to stay up all of one or two nights.

ok maybe i will try this challange in the future

Between Thursday and Friday of last week, I managed to stay up for ~45 hours before crashing out hard last night.

I was working on a time-critical video project Thursday and ate a couple handfuls of chocolate covered coffee beans late in the evening that kept me up all night. I wanted to take a nap Friday, but I got sidetracked for several hours sorting out a very messy collection of audio files while searching for music for a scene in the video. After completion and delivery Friday night, I went out for a few drinks and don't remember much after that. I rode home with a friend and crashed out around 3AM on his spare bed.

I looked through your first thread and thought it was interesting that you said you felt the same as when you first woke up. But in this thread, it is evident that you are tired. There is a certain segment of the population that functions well on little sleep. I'm one of those people too, and know a lot like us because it's kind of required for my career. What I mean to say, is that it's not super-human to not have hallucinations, or problems with coordination or judgement. Some of us just feel tired after 3 days. I haven't stayed up much longer personally, but my guess from the reports of others is that you will have to hit the 5 day mark before you can expect hallucinations.

Is it actually possible to stay up 100 hours and not start suffering episodes of micro-sleep? I know from personal experience during Basic Training that it doesn't take long before missing sleep causes lots of micro-sleep to occur. During FTX where I would maybe get 2 hours of sleep a night for about a week and I had to perform "missions" and lots of physical and mental stress I would suffer from micro-sleep all the time after a few days. At first I didn't notice, it was like segments of time were kind of disappearing--that or I would close my eyes for a second and I would instantly start dreaming while I was awake. Er, well, maybe not awake per se, but still mentally alert--if someone were to walk up next to me while I was on guard duty and this happened, I would snap out of it like it never happened. The dreams weren't really dreams either, it was more like highly unusual thought patterns or very vivid and surreal day dreams. However, it was very easy to not notice that this was even going on unless I consciously made an effort to. Do you notice this happening to you during your no-sleep attempts?

Originally Posted by snoop

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Mmmm... on the failed 40-hour run, yes, but that was only on ten hours of sleep after 88 awake.

I've stayed awake, with slight periods of trance in the early morning, adn have done this for 1 to 2 weeks at a time. The key is just in hitting those delta, and theta brain waves.

You will start dreaming after about a week and a half persistently while you are awake. For me, this came as electrical jolts throughout my body, and seeing something present that others could not see.

Manifestation of supernatural abilities is common as well.

Problems are ill-health and digestion. This is relieved through meditation and certain asanas. Also exercise has to be increased, and spread throughout the day(which is now 24 hours in length). Just as you had periods of rest, vigor, relaxation, massage during the day, you must have those during the night. Probably should take two showers as well, because you are living twice as much.

Also, when I jumped 40 pounds in my bench in 3 days, I used autogenics to repair my body after every workout. Worked great.

I believe that this 10 hour bullshit sleep is for ignorant little ponies to enjoy. Its a population control method. Sleep during the night, when its cold and it would actually be better to physically exert(no heat exhaustion problems), and during the day to chill the fuck out and enjoy the sunshine outside. Also, I've noticed that spontaneous falling asleep happens to me whenever Im in the sun and really tired.

Its like my body senses and oppourtunity to recharge and takes it. So basically its programming, and hypnosis is a good tool to remove it.

The only time you need sleep is when you are sick in my opinion.

You, sir Moto, are a very interesting fellow. Congrats!

Well given the Human mind can only go around 11 days without sleep before you die. 100 hour challenge is indeed possible. Is it easy or good for your health? No, not by a long shot.

Originally Posted by Crow360

Well given the Human mind can only go around 11 days without sleep before you die.

Now, why is it that seemingly every time someone on here makes a closed statement regarding a human's reaction to x-amount of lost sleep... they're wrong?

I ask because I was talking to a good friend of mine about when he lived on the streets. He has insomnia which is massively augmented by trying to sleep in an unfamiliar environment. Ergo, when he landed it in the streets... he didn't sleep for almost a month. He told me that he blacked out three times, but that he never slept.

Edit: Sorry if that came across as snobbish or condescending, Crow. I don't mean for it to be.

And it's now attempt..... what's the number now? Anybody keeping track?
>sigh<
Okay, I last slept until roughly 2 PM Friday the 11th. [~37 hrs]

And THIS time I have MUSIC to make!!

Anybody interested?

https://soundcloud.com/project-signet/pilot-2-0

Sounds pretty good. You slept 37 hours?

No, at the time of the post, I hadn't slept in 37 hours.
Silly boy. >_<

I was confused. It was early. I put that to my having just woken up. A time reserved mostly for DJing. Note, some things in my DJ make less sense then my dreams.

Currently at ~85 hours.

Nice. 15 more. You can make it this time. It is almost party time.

Edit: looks like you posted that 5 hours ago. Hope you are still going. 10 hours to go.

I hate to be the wet blanket here,
but I have no respect for this at all.
This is a bad idea, and certainly nothing to be proud of.
May I ask what you are attempting to accomplish?

It is as if you said "Cheer for me as I do 100 lines of cocaine!" and everybody went wild. Why is this something that you would brag about? You're going to cause temporary psychosis, and minor brain damage, for what reason? P

I'll be here making a nice paycheck, with eight hours of sleep under my belt, while I wait for your answer.

Hello, wet blanket. There's the door, you may now leave; goodbye; go away.
In the past week, I have recorded almost an album's worth of new music and gone through a month's worth of studio training all due to the fact that I was able to just keep going 24/7 for the end of it (the past ~4 days). I knew nothing going into the studio a week ago about computerized studio production.
You see? YOU are the sucker, because I'm being productive every hour of the day while you throw away a third of your day for some z's. Whoopie. YAY YOU.

Oh, also, this quote here:

Originally Posted by sloth

You're going to cause temporary psychosis, and minor brain damage...

Is not accurate. I'm sorry, but it's jut not. You. Are. Wrong. If nothing else in the world, I now have the reason "to spite the Sloth", so thanks for being a pain.

Now go away. I facepalmed so hard at reading your comment that I knocked myself unconscious and failed to get to a hundred hours. SO GO AWAY.

No need to be so mean to him Signet. He wasn't meaning to be rude.

Originally Posted by Signet

You see? YOU are the sucker, because I'm being productive every hour of the day while you throw away a third of your day for some z's. Whoopie. YAY YOU.

Ahem, *cough* we are on a lucid dreaming site, and this is on your page

I am a personality of countless facets. I am a very physical person, and yet I obsess about attaining and mastering lucidity in my dreams. I am a creator of tools and machines, and yet an artist and musician as well.
My goal regarding lucid dreams is to master my dream-state mind so that I can be lucid whenever I am dreaming.

so I wouldn't exactly say throwing a third of our life away, I'm guessing you haven't had alot of lucids yet.
Anyways there is no need for a reply like that, if you didn't wish for his opinion you could have just told him normally and told him that you only wish to discuss the ongoing challenge.

Originally Posted by Signet

Hello, wet blanket. There's the door, you may now leave; goodbye; go away.
In the past week, I have recorded almost an album's worth of new music and gone through a month's worth of studio training all due to the fact that I was able to just keep going 24/7 for the end of it (the past ~4 days). I knew nothing going into the studio a week ago about computerized studio production.
You see? YOU are the sucker, because I'm being productive every hour of the day while you throw away a third of your day for some z's. Whoopie. YAY YOU.

Oh, also, this quote here:

Is not accurate. I'm sorry, but it's jut not. You. Are. Wrong. If nothing else in the world, I now have the reason "to spite the Sloth", so thanks for being a pain.

Now go away. I facepalmed so hard at reading your comment that I knocked myself unconscious and failed to get to a hundred hours. SO GO AWAY.

You sound cranky, lol. Maybe it's your bedtime, kiddo.
So, you don't think that you are in any way impaired by the fact that you haven't slept?
You've written an album's worth of music in a week. If I took 1/3 of the time longer to do that, I'd find that to be acceptable, because I can also drive without being impaired lol. Besides, Kurt Cobain wrote half of his last album on the way to the recording studio. Doesn't necessarily mean it's good music. (No offense. I am a fan.) I could write a hundred pages of shit in no time. fdjasklf;jasdkf;jasd While you were writing this questionable music I helped tens of thousands of computers, routers, switches, XMBs, Riverbed pattern buffers, gateways, firewalls, and terminal servers connect to each other, across the country and I did it with a clear head. I made thousands of dollars doing it this week.
In order to make your computer run smoothly, system resources are put into defragmenting, automatically, as of windows XP or 7 (I don't remember. It's somewhere along that area of the time line.) This is a necessary inconvenience in order to make your computer run smoothly. Your processor doesn't run at FULL capacity, because if it did, it would blow up in no time.
Humans evolved (or were created) in a certain way, and we have slept away a third of our lives for our entire existence. If I have to sacrifice a third of my life in order to think straight, I'm alright with that. It's quite possible (probable) that this is part of the way our brains work. If I told you that "HA! I stopped putting oil in my car a year ago!" you'd call me a stupid idiot. And now I am saying to you:
You have most likely not stumbled onto some amazing, special, secret, ingenious plan to become super human, that countless people throughout history have not already thought of. You are almost certainly just experimenting, because you are young. I've tried it too, years and years ago So has every hardcore meth head out there. Some of them go insane and eat their own faces.
I am sorry that you are cranky, and even though I'm a rude asshole, I mean no harm. I'm only trying to provide a voice of reason.

Because you realize and admit to being a "rude asshole", I now have nothing against you. Anyone who can admit to being a grump is good in my book.
*closes door*
I'll admit that I didn't make the most beautiful recordings while in the studio, but I'll also smack anyone who really tries to tell me it's crap. I'm out of shape artistically, but I wouldn't bother to make something that had no merit. I'm not like that.
Oh, and I'm a rude asshole to rude assholes, that's all.

And... if someone told me that they hadn't changed the oil in their car in, say, three years... and it still worked... I'd say "WOW! What kind of car do you drive? I want one!"

I'm not trying to get all sappy now, but I will change pace, now that I've been a jerk. I do commend that you are trying things outside of the boundaries. I have done this my entire life. I have been slapped down by "reality'" in more ways than I can count, and I wouldn't change a moment, because I had to KNOW that they were right. I had to experience it and see it for myself. Until then, it was just advice from the populous. I commend you for attempting to find your own path. I admire your youth and your place in the path. I appreciate that you have conviction in what you are doing. I don't expect, or wish for my post here to change your mind about it. If you were that weak minded you wouldn't have started this project in the first place, and I'd have no respect for you. It was never my intention to change your mind. But sometimes, a piece of advice can help as a catalyst to help find the correct path faster. If you receive advice stating the exact opposite of mine, that is even better, because you will hear both sides.
I'm not signing off, but I am saying good luck, Signet. I believe that this particular path is a dead end, and I can state that after having tried it myself, but the fact that you're exploring the side roads is very healthy, and admirable.