First i got to say sorry for keep bothing you guy's with these annoying question's about mental imagery.But i try and try and i just cant get it but one good thing from practicing my memory has improved alot.Now i can see image's and place's clear in my thought's in detail but as for seeing them as if i were actually looking at them in front of me no it just darkness. It's like the best i can explain it's like their too far back if that make any sense.I have heard some people say find the spot where the image is located in your mind and focus your attention there.That dont work lol i dont where thier coming from i just know there there.This is just to hard i hear some people say it's all about feeling's but if im looking at a picture i would like to see with my eye's closed there is no feeling's there i just wanna see with my eye's closed thats all.But anyway now im to the point where i can see and create image's and see them clear in thought's but it's like there just too far back.So i cant see them if i were actually looking at them thats the problem im having . Any advice i know i am so close to giving this up it's just to hard.Oh yeah one more thing when people do see mental imagery are they in a different state of mind like sorta meditation or reaching some sort of zone ?