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      WILD without wbtb?

      I wanted to ask, if it's possible to start a WILD in the middle of the day... after work or school, when I'm a little bit tired...
      I often heard that you can do if you take a nap, but wanted to hear what you people say.

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      Yes it is possible to do it before going to bed at night or during the day without having taken a nap. Most people just find it easier to use the WBTB method because it makes it easier to get into the WILD state
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      Quote Originally Posted by Apfelpfankuchen View Post
      Yes it is possible to do it before going to bed at night or during the day without having taken a nap. Most people just find it easier to use the WBTB method because it makes it easier to get into the WILD state
      The problems with WBTB are as follows:
      1. People may think it's a waste of time.
      2. It can make you not sleep - The alarm clock seeks your attention.
      3. People do not understand fully what they have to do.
      4. People do not understand fully how long they should spend awake.
      5. Loss of sleep.


      Basically people aren't exactly right if they're saying WBTB's no problem at all. Because really - It's a big thing. People just say it's easy because they're experienced at it, not trained, but experienced, meaning they know how it's done. Other people, like me, have a problem with it. I was up untill 7.30 am. Originally I was meant to go to bed at 2:30 am but my alarm kept me focussed and extremely uncomfortable. I didn't feel tired at all.

      I want everyone to remember this when they try WBTB.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jdeadevil View Post
      The problems with WBTB are as follows:
      1. People may think it's a waste of time.
      2. It can make you not sleep - The alarm clock seeks your attention.
      3. People do not understand fully what they have to do.
      4. People do not understand fully how long they should spend awake.
      5. Loss of sleep.

      Basically people aren't exactly right if they're saying WBTB's no problem at all. Because really - It's a big thing. People just say it's easy because they're experienced at it, not trained, but experienced, meaning they know how it's done. Other people, like me, have a problem with it. I was up untill 7.30 am. Originally I was meant to go to bed at 2:30 am but my alarm kept me focussed and extremely uncomfortable. I didn't feel tired at all.

      I want everyone to remember this when they try WBTB.

      Never said I was experienced or the like. Just saying that the majority OF the people on this site would agree that a WILD is more easily achieved combined with the WBTB technique. Not having completed one myself, I agree with what you have to say about it, not knowing how long to stay awake for is really a big thing because it's different for everybody and there isin't a set time that works universally for everyone
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      Hence my first problem with Don Parker's free course (times), but apparently you don't have to be on at the same time as him!

      Anyway, yeah. I didn't say you said you were experienced. I was just talking about the elites like Adam (he wrote a routine technique) who make it out to you that it's easy.
      Last edited by Jdeadevil; 01-02-2008 at 12:46 AM. Reason: I said hell instead of him

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      aaaah yes adam heh

      are you going through with that program?
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