Thread: Crossing that threshold

Hey

So, i've been trying out a few LD techniques and WILD seems the most comfortable for me at the moment.

It works for me since every time I try it I never lose consciousness. I always reach the point where i'm getting that sensation of "drifting into sleep".

My problem is that I always snap out of it. I have mentioned this in the newbie forum already. And I know that with practise I might be able to allow myself to.. Keep drifting into it without having my focus break the whole thing.

But i'm not sure what to do when I reach this point. What do I focus my mind on?

Usually I just keep counting my breaths or repeating whatever mantra I used to reach the "threshold". But I usually end up focusing on the sensation. that rush of energy and light that comes over me. Which makes me analyze it and eventually I end up focusing on my limbs, which by that time feels numb and tense. and ultimately I either "accidentally" move a limb and snap out of it.

One thing to note is that I don't really get any HI's. Or atleast I dont think so.. I dont get any vivid imagery to focus on. I just get a strange feeling that I'm starting to drift off somewhere.

So any advice on this matter would be greatly apreciated. I'm very determined to keep on practising, but I just want to know HOW to go about it, so I dont do it "the wrong way" so to speak

this exact same thing happens to me, Im just hoping that with enough practice Ill finally get it.. sry I cant be of more help

Wilding through HI is almost impossible for me.

I have had good success just by laying very still, timing my breaths and counting: one, I'm dreaming (breathe in) two, I'm dreaming (breathe out), etc.

If I start losing my place, that's a good sign and means I need to really be paying attention. It's hard to describe what happens next, but it is a sort of "shift" feeling - things will just suddenly feel different. That means it's time to do a Reality Check and find out I'm dreaming.

I've only been successful by trying to stay conscious through HI a couple times. It is a lot of fun, because HI is a real kick if you can observe it - but it's quite an art to slide into the scene. For me, it involves actually "letting go" and falling asleep for a moment - and hoping you'll recover your lucidity once you cross over.

Look in the tutorials for Clairity's WILD technique. She's really the master of that one, and is extremely helpful if you have any questions.

Originally Posted by pj

Wilding through HI is almost impossible for me.

I have had good success just by laying very still, timing my breaths and counting: one, I'm dreaming (breathe in) two, I'm dreaming (breathe out), etc.

If I start losing my place, that's a good sign and means I need to really be paying attention. It's hard to describe what happens next, but it is a sort of "shift" feeling - things will just suddenly feel different. That means it's time to do a Reality Check and find out I'm dreaming.

Do you do this reality check even if you see pitch black on the insides of your eyelids?

Originally Posted by Riot Maker

Do you do this reality check even if you see pitch black on the insides of your eyelids?

Absolutely.

It is a FEELING - a sort of "shift." It is hard to describe, but once you experience it, you'll know.

Originally Posted by pj

Absolutely.

It is a FEELING - a sort of "shift." It is hard to describe, but once you experience it, you'll know.

Ok thanks. I think i have expeirinced this but i just didn't do the reailty check. When you feel this shift do you feel that your hands begin to float and can pass right through your body?


sorry for hijacking this thread woozie.