Thread: Need help

I have become very good at keeping my mind awake at night. I've been doing WBTB and trying for my second LD. I got my first one by doing a WBTB, staying awake in my room for 15 minutes, and keeping my mind awake for an hour and a half until I fell asleep. Last night I had no success because I was awake the entire time. What are some good ways to fall asleep or should I not try to stay awake at all?

PS: I had a dream last night at the point where I was closest to falling asleep. It started out of as a mini-dream, these wierd dreams you get before falling asleep, and then started to behave like a normal dream. I Completely knew I was in a dream and was completely concious of my physical surroundings in real life. Because I could feel my real body, I made no effort to control it. When I thought about it too hard the dream stopped. I wasn't trying to WILD, but was this the part when you slip into a dream or somthing?

Does anyone have suggestions about falling asleep???

I just kind of let it flow. If I think too much about falling asleep then my mind starts to get anxious and won't sleep. Just try to relax and it'll either happen or not I think.

what technique do you use to get lucid?

That mini-dream is called hypnogogic imagery. It happens every time you fall asleep, if you let it play out it may or may not turn into a full dream. Whether it does or doesn't seems arbitrary, but once the imagery goes away do a reality check.

The guy above you's LD counter is at one, asking him what technique he uses is pretty useless No offense. For beginners, DILD and WBTB work the best. But try a WILD anyway. I fail WILD's a lot, but recently I've noticed that while I'm waiting to WILD I'm thinking about lucid dreaming so I end up with a WBTB.