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      Need help from good WILDers

      I don't like doing this, but I need help

      For the last week or so I haven't had to get up early so I've been attempting to WILD almost every night. I'd say I've attempted about ten times, not all of them were as hard core as I would have liked, but I could tell pretty quickly that it wasn't going to work that night and broke it off.

      Here's what I do exactly: I go to sleep between 11 and 1, then I naturally wake up around 4. I do this by drinking a lot of water before bed. It goes without saying that I get up and go to the bathroom, I also (sometimes) take a B6 vitamin at that time, but something I do it before bed, and other times I don't take it.

      Last night I also tried taking a sleeping pill to try and get to sleep faster and I remember having a wild ride with sleep paralysis once with one. I start (mentally) counting down from 99, when I reach zero I start going back up to 100.

      Then I often stop because I'm not getting any imagery (I know I don't need to, but before sleep I almost always getting swirling lights.)

      If I decide to keep going I do another countdown and then back to 100. I've done both slow / deep breathing like I would do for meditation as well as normal pace breathing. The counting is coinciding with each breath.

      Itches come and go and my body feels numb, but I can't quite get into a WILD. What's blocking me? I know that I can do it (as you can see from my signature,) I've done it accidentally a few times. Lots of times laying there in bed trying to WILD acts like a WBTB and I have one anyway, but I want to be able to WILD properly.

      My room is pitch black and noiseless and I'm comfortable. I've tried it on my back and on my side (the way that I usually sleep.)

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      If you are naturally waking up at 4:00, I would suggest forcing yourself to wake up a bit earlier or a bit later. In my experience, waking up naturally doesn't lend itself well to WILD. I know it's not true for everyone. Try setting an alarm to wake up in the middle of a REM period. You will be cutting your REM period short, so you may not have the longest LD possible, but you will not have to lie in bed for an hour or two waiting for REM to hit you.

      If you have several days in a row, set an alarm for a half hour later every day. Start at 4:30, then continue to 5:00, 6:00 ect. You want to interrupt your dream, be groggy as hell, and make it as difficult as possible to get out of bed. If you are running into the walls and stubbing your toes, you are in the right zone. Then stay up until you are fully awake, and try your WILD.

      What I'm trying to say is, it may not be your technique, it may just be your timing.

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