Thread: Terrified of lucid dreaming

My mind is scared by lucid dreaming because i think lucid dreaming is the most impressive experience of life; i tried psychedelics and stimulants, i like the buzz, feeling my mind and my body that change.. But i was scared to become conscious in another universe, like a virtual reality , a firt person videogame; i think that most people is scared by lucid dreaming, it's difficult to accept that exists another strange universe with the same perception of waking life.

By lucid dreaming, you're just imagining stuff while being aware that you're imagining it. Are you scared of this? Is it scary to imagine an apple while knowing that you're imagining an apple?

All lucid dreaming is is realizing that you're asleep inside of a dream.
Not another universe or stuff, lol

Originally Posted by Acmic

All lucid dreaming is is realizing that you're asleep inside of a dream.
Not another universe or stuff, lol

No. that's doign ti wrong. Lucid dreamign is realizing ur awake inside of a dream.

Actually, one is asleep while they're dreaming, unless they are hallucinating. So yes, Acmic is right.

I call shenanigans.

Anyway.. OP has different beliefs from the posts previous to mine. I think that stating ur beliefs as they differ from the OP is only fair. Let's be fair. Who really knows what dreams is. Tell me that dream is just imagination after reading some Robert Wagonner.

Lucid dreams are literally the same thing as ordinary dreams, except for the fact that you know that you are dreaming.

It is just like becoming aware of your daydreams - if you daydream "normally" you will often not be directly aware of exactly what you are thinking about, but if you become "lucid" during those daydreams you are suddenly aware of your inner thoughts - but this has not made you "enter another universe".

Nah, that's true. But it definetely feels intimidating. I also stand in awe of the perception in the dream. I appreciate it, it does not stop me from enjoying lucidity.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Nah, that's true. But it definetely feels intimidating. I also stand in awe of the perception in the dream. I appreciate it, it does not stop me from enjoying lucidity.

Exactly ! I don't think that dreams are only dreams; ther's something strange, it's hard to think that dreams are only a product of our mind

In a dream i see an apple, i touch an apple, so good eating it. But senses work in a phisical word, how do you explain perception in dreams ? There aren't photons , we couldn't see nothing in a dream because our eyes are closed ! It's not expected our perception in dreams, WHERE are photons ? This is the answer that some scientists are searching for

And from my experience, it's true, the energy i fell around me is alien; i can control it, but it's not ME; when i find awake myself in a dream, i don't think that what i'm seeing is just in my mind, i have the impression to be in another universe.

Originally Posted by SSS

Exactly ! I don't think that dreams are only dreams; ther's something strange, it's hard to think that dreams are only a product of our mind

In a dream i see an apple, i touch an apple, so good eating it. But senses work in a phisical word, how do you explain perception in dreams ? There aren't photons , we couldn't see nothing in a dream because our eyes are closed ! It's not expected our perception in dreams, WHERE are photons ? This is the answer that some scientists are searching for

And from my experience, it's true, the energy i fell around me is alien; i can control it, but it's not ME; when i find awake myself in a dream, i don't think that what i'm seeing is just in my mind, i have the impression to be in another universe.

Everything in reality is formulated by your mind. In fact, your reality is completely dependent on your mind. If you were missing the part of the brain which regulates touch, reality does not have any textures or feelings. If you are missing the part of the brain which regulates hearing, reality would have no sound. If the nerves between your eyes and brain are severed, reality has no color. If your body was given dopamine, your mind would interpret that as reality making you happy. All these things have to go through the mind. Think of dreaming as skipping the external stimulus and having your nerves be stimulated by the internal stimulus which are your thoughts. The nerves replicate the feelings associated with those thoughts which makes them feel so real. It is so much more vivid than daydreaming because you don't have the higher priority external stimulus interfering with the lower priority internal stimulus.

Why would it be something else or outside you? How do you even know something is within you or not? Your mind fools you all the time. Most of the things you remember are lies. The mind just fills in stuff all the time. Don't let something as uncertain and misleading as "a feeling" lead you away from reason.

It's very explainable by logic why we dream. It's not scary, it's totally normal and if you get lucid it can even be a lot of fun

Originally Posted by MrPriority

Why would it be something else or outside you? How do you even know something is within you or not? Your mind fools you all the time. Most of the things you remember are lies. The mind just fills in stuff all the time. Don't let something as uncertain and misleading as "a feeling" lead you away from reason.

It's very explainable by logic why we dream. It's not scary, it's totally normal and if you get lucid it can even be a lot of fun

See, this is where belief matters and actualy changes outcomes. What you belief does not determin ur reality, it does however determin how you react to ur reality. You belief that the intense recreation of vivid material reality in dreams is a trick of the mind. That's how you react to it. OP believes that vivid perceptual reality in dreams is indicator that this is something more than fantasy. His belief causes him to be in awe. That's just how it is, isn't it?

I wonder how logical lucid dreams are in ur philosophy.

Originally Posted by SSS

Exactly ! I don't think that dreams are only dreams; ther's something strange, it's hard to think that dreams are only a product of our mind

In a dream i see an apple, i touch an apple, so good eating it. But senses work in a phisical word, how do you explain perception in dreams ? There aren't photons , we couldn't see nothing in a dream because our eyes are closed ! It's not expected our perception in dreams, WHERE are photons ? This is the answer that some scientists are searching for

And from my experience, it's true, the energy i fell around me is alien; i can control it, but it's not ME; when i find awake myself in a dream, i don't think that what i'm seeing is just in my mind, i have the impression to be in another universe.

The energy and the things are not coming directly from ur ego/I. This much is quite obvious, since we don't literally create every little piece of the dream. Hence, there's an alienness to dream. I woulden't be so quick to say that it isn't YOU. Perhaps what is you is something other than you remember in normal life. I recommend exploring this concept. Robert Waggoner ; Lucid Dreaming, Gateway to the inner self. Goes into this, in this book quite extensively.

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There's much to learn from all sides of the coin. I don't think any "side" in this particular argument is particualrly right or wronger.