Thread: Burning or Drowning?

Originally Posted by stenny

I am

LIAR!
You are meant to die somewhere hot..
Pwaha. What a weird situation to make a chat up line.

Mmm. burning, blistering skin.:bravo:

Originally Posted by The White Rabbit

LIAR!
You are meant to die somewhere hot..
Pwaha. What a weird situation to make a chat up line.

Mmm. burning, blistering skin.:bravo:

What about explosion-like burning, like 4 seconds until you are dead, vs. 30 until you drown?

Like I said, hold your breath for as long as you possible can without passing out until you start kicking and punding, and then tell me if you want to drown.

I'd still most rather drown than burn.
People say drowning is a natural and peaceful way to die.
There is a stage after the kicking and fighting where your body relaxes and you let it happen.

Burning includes pain, drowning doesn't. Maybe apart from aching in the lungs.
I think I would like to drown, not in a morbid way but it seems, nice.

How would anyone know how peaceful drowning to death is?

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

How would anyone know how peaceful drowning to death is?

By thunder, he has a good point !

Originally Posted by The White Rabbit

I'd still most rather drown than burn.
People say drowning is a natural and peaceful way to die.
There is a stage after the kicking and fighting where your body relaxes and you let it happen.

Burning includes pain, drowning doesn't. Maybe apart from aching in the lungs.
I think I would like to drown, not in a morbid way but it seems, nice.

Did you try my test?

People who have nearly drowned but survived say it got peaceful as they neared death.

So I've heard...

Drowning or burning?

FUCK BOTH.

How about death of old age, going peacefully and painlessly.

Short, quick, painless... anything like that.

Originally Posted by AmazeO XD

Drowning or burning?

FUCK BOTH.

How about death of old age, going peacefully and painlessly.

Short, quick, painless... anything like that.

Oh, you mean cardiac arrest!

Yeah, that would painless and fun - your heart being too weak to support your aged body.

In addition to cardiac arrest when asleep, another painless means would be to stop breathing while asleep. I believe its called sleep apnea or something like that. Been there, done that...twice.

The difference between that and drowning would be that in drowning you are aware you are drowning and thus the mind has time to panic.


As to burning to death, there has been more than one Buddhist monk who has sat down and lit up and burned to death without so much as flinching. I believe Solskeye posted a link to one such account at one time.

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

As to burning to death, there has been more than one Buddhist monk who has sat down and lit up and burned to death without so much as flinching. I believe Solskeye posted a link to one such account at one time.

...I can't think how they do that...I've seen pics...unfortunately...

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

...I can't think how they do that...I've seen pics...unfortunately...

Thats just it, they dont think. Where they are at in perception is beyond the mind, beyond the body. the ground of their Being has been shifted away from what you and i see burning.

Lucky bastards, able to do that

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

Lucky bastards, able to do that

To shift away and let the body burn, thats really nothing to marvel at..


To make the shift and then continue living and teaching amidst all the distractions, unaffected by them, now that is to marvel at...

I meant just the ability. Why they felt like burning themselves is beyond me

I find it admirable that if it ever happened that they absolutely had to burn (like at the stake or couldn't escape a burning building or something) they would be able to transcend it.

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

I meant just the ability. Why they felt like burning themselves is beyond me

They were protesting Ngo Diems government that required them to convert to Catholicism.

Originally Posted by Vance

Okay, would you rather die by burning or drowning?

Let me put this into perspective.

Drowning: Hold your breath for as long as you can, and when you can't take it anymore, keep holding it in, until you are kicking the floor, then you can hold it in. (Breathe eventually though)

Burning: Think about burning yourself with a candle. Now imagine putting your face in jacuzzi water. Now think about heat so intense your skin blackens and shrinks and sloughs off, and your hair burning, your eyes drying up and breathing in fire and smoke.

Which would you prefer? (If you had to choose, i.e. burning ship in middle of ocean and you can't swim.)

Drowning, any day, sure its rough and all that but, you die faster then with fire, with water you just kinda pass out after and drift into death

with fire, your screaming and roasting to death....

Originally Posted by guerilla

Drowning, any day, sure its rough and all that but, you die faster then with fire, with water you just kinda pass out after and drift into death

with fire, your screaming and roasting to death....

Like I said before, pretend it's an explosion/wall of fire type death where you are alive for 4 seconds, as opposed to 30/60 asphyxiating.

I duno, fire scares me, id rather asphyxiate, People get off on that, maybe its a good death?

Not fun.

Anyhow, I nearly drowned as a kid. It was very peaceful.

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

The difference between that and drowning would be that in drowning you are aware you are drowning and thus the mind has time to panic.

Unless you're one of those people who is not prone to panic.

To be honest, when I'm in a situation where I feel bodily harm could come to me (ie., stuck under a river raft, falling off of a bike), my body kind of goes into autopilot. It's that mental stage where you don't think; you do. I was under water under a raft for about a minute, but didn't really think anything of it until I came up; I wasn't even aware of how long I was down there. I assume that if I wasn't able to surface, I might have experienced discomfort as I ran out of oxygen, but it was quite peaceful.

Now when I come out of that state, I usually have to sit down for a while, as I tend to stop breathing for that short amount of time, no matter what the situation is... that killed me when I was practicing Judo. *reminds herself to breathe now*

I have often said that if I ever committed suicide I would do it by jumping into a fire.

Originally Posted by guerilla

I duno, fire scares me, id rather asphyxiate, People get off on that, maybe its a good death?

Did I just hear you right? Honestly?

I think you are referring to breathing into a bag, which is breathing carbon dioxide (used oxygen) instead of oxygen. Your body thinks you are breathing air, but is unable to extract any oxygen from the mix after it is all used up. Subsequently, you start to black out and lose consciousness. (Yeah, fun)

I somehow think that's a little different from holding your breath as you sink underwater, until your lungs burn so badly you start breathing in water through your nose and mouth until your body lets go. The point is you are not breathing anything. That's asphyxiation, and it is not fun. Please try my test of holding your breath for as long as you can before you black out.

There is some sort of euphoria when the brain is deprived of oxygen, and not just by breathing "used oxygen" with your head in a bag. In high school, a guy I knew ended up killing himself when he hung himself in the bathroom. Apparently he had done that before in the past (I don't know the details), but it was ruled that he was not attempting to commit suicide.

Either way, by fire or by water, you die. I'd rather take the less horribly-disfiguring method. (As for a firey explosion where I would be assured a quick death, I might go for that.... might.)