Thread: Why dream experience is fundamental and so very important

Time Cube

Dr. Gene Ray is a colleague of yours I'm assuming, Frank?

Hey guys. 74 posts, wow.

Just want to say to you all and let Frank know that I think his thoughts are pretty deep.
I think language is the limiting factor here. The words when read are obstructing the way it is filtered in most people's english. Including myself.
However, I have began to think in a similar direction as Frank and have been re-thinking some of Frank's words to form a picture of how it was meant originally. Probably.
I must say, some of them are pretty profound things to consider. With very deep and profound meaning. So thanks for that.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Hey guys. 74 posts, wow.

Just want to say to you all and let Frank know that I think his thoughts are pretty deep.
I think language is the limiting factor here. The words when read are obstructing the way it is filtered in most people's english. Including myself.
However, I have began to think in a similar direction as Frank and have been re-thinking some of Frank's words to form a picture of how it was meant originally. Probably.
I must say, some of them are pretty profound things to consider. With very deep and profound meaning. So thanks for that.

Then again, one can find profoundness in anything. Especially a paragraph where many profound concepts are used in conjunction and ambiguity.
There is a distinct difference in having a revolutionary idea whilst not being able to put it in writing and forming a paragraph with no common meaning between two people.

Someone might have thought of relativity before Einstein, or calculus before Newton (well, actually someone did, but nevermind that...). But it was Newton and Einstein who were able to communicate the ideas, that they may propagate into our corpus of knowledge of the universe.

Thanks Dthoughts.

Distance in/of space is key here. Balance involves the center or middle. Dreams balance being AND experience.

In our waking and standing experience, look down at the VISIBLE Earth/ground. Now consider the visible body. Consider the visible distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. Full gravity is full distance in/of space. Consider the range of gravitational feeling.

Now, the space above the Earth/ground is in balance with the invisible and visible eye/body. The experience of your own eye/body (VISION begins INVISIBLY inside the eye/body) is invisible, and yet the visible) dome of another person's eye/body is also experienced. An eye is an eye. Dreams balance being and experience. Accordingly, invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance IS (logically, clearly, AND fundamentally) the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. Bodily experience (including visual) is that of the middle distance in/of space in dreams consistent with the prior sentence; consistent with balanced middle strength force/energy/feeling/touch; and consistent with a balance of being AND experience. Seen and felt/touched, dream experience is a linked center of body experience that involves quantum gravity and a fundamental and ultimate equivalency and balancing of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism. There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. Dreams balance being and experience, including bodily (and visual) experience.

In dreams, we are conscious and alive in conjunction with what is the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. The physics proves this. It is clear. I have proven it. It all makes sense.

I have fundamentally, clearly, theoretically, logically, and ultimately unified physics for all time. I have proven what dreams really and truly are (and must be).

By Author Frank Martin DiMeglio

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cry or laugh
ban or pontify
milky way or twix

I have fundamentally, clearly, theoretically, logically, and ultimately unified physics for all time. I have proven what dreams really and truly are (and must be).

This is true.. at least for you Frank, and thats something. Unfortunately not many if any human on earth will understand or benifit from your understanding as you explaining it right now, except maybe yourself? How does your theory about dreams make any difference in your daily life Frank? And have you ever read anything from Carl Gustav Jung? Im just curious.

Originally Posted by DreamyBear

And have you ever read anything from Carl Gustav Jung? Im just curious.

Frank's position on Jung is like this:

Morons.

Frank's position on Jung is like this:

Morons.

Well who knows. Maybe that is, maybe not. If he doesnt feel like give an answear to that question, then your probably right. But I think we should give him a chance to answear for himself before we draw any conclusions.

Frank has had dozens of chances to answer our questions, DreamyBear, and has consistently responded with more gibberish, or, more commonly, no response at all. His complete disrespect for us, or perhaps his inability to understand us, has invited comments like Cmind's.

I think I mentioned once before that the best thing to do with Frank is ignore his cut-and-paste pronouncements; I still think that is a good idea. Maybe sometime in the future Frank will choose to write to us in words that make sense, or at least acknowledge our curiousity... or maybe the DV mods will conclude long before then that Frank is a disrespectful troll and ban him.

Frank has had dozens of chances to answer our questions, DreamyBear, and has consistently responded with more gibberish, or, more commonly, no response at all. His complete disrespect for us, or perhaps his inability to understand us, has invited comments like Cmind's.

I totally see you point Sageous and I share the same impression of Frank as you do, except that I dont really feel disrespected by anything he have posted. But as you said, no response at all is the common thing when trying to reach out to Frank. And being merely ignored by him is okey with me, since that is he's choice as it seems. That how ever, doesnt make me interested in his ideas. But what facsinates me is that Frank seems to be totally uninterested in connecting with anyone here except those who might say something good about his theories.. That must be a kind of lonley world I guess, but maybe his own mind is the only one he cares to talk to in the end? I hope these thought of mine, doesnt come across as disrespectful to Frank how ever, because thats not what I intend to do by saying all this. Though I doubt that Frank even read all this.

My point with asking Frank about Carl Jung, is to see what he have to say about him. And that would reveal some ideas for me to conclude if Frank is sincere in his ideas, even if they seems very confusing to everyone here including himself? Or if it's just his ego that are trying to expand beyond reason. I have a already read too much of Franks posts to know how he probably will (not?)respond to this, and Im probably already to bias of Frank to expect what his thougts about Jung is. But I thought, why dont give it a last chance, right? Otherwise, this will very most likely be my last post trying to reach out to Frank. Anyways, thanks for the hint to not bang my head bloody with this thread Sageous. I wont do that, I promise.

Originally Posted by DreamyBear

Anyways, thanks for the hint to not bang my head bloody with this thread Sageous. I wont do that, I promise

Nah, I think it is for the best that we do not fall into that trap once again. I hope that if we can just keep it civile and unattached that this thread will not more trouble.

I just read a few of Frank's sentences a few more times. And I think that maybe there are some ties to physics that apply also in dreams. Gravity and inertia are a weaker force in dreams. Ok. Well, this also may involve a balancing of these forces, and I believe that is part of Frank's theory.

I think the fact that gravity and inertia are a weaker force in dreams provides evidence that dreams are fundamentally the result of balancing gravity and inertia. They are in equilibrium.
Therefore in this theory dreams are in essence the physical counterpart of the force between inertia and gravity. Which is supposedly the empty space/void in the universe. Which as scientists are telling us is not actually empty/void it really consists of quantumfluctuations/zeropoint-energy. Consciousness similar in this case because dreams are the only place engaging all the senses in an orgasm of balanced inertia and pressure. And Frank clearly demonstrated to himself that consciousness in dreams and waking life consists of the balance between inertia and gravity. He just didn't get his point across to others very well. Read this paragraph very carefully.

But it gets deeper in sense. When you picture the entirety of electromagnetic situation where the human body is situated in for example. I am just having trouble figuring that one out by myself

Dthoughts, these are the facts. It is best to understand the physics of dream experience first.

Half inertia and half gravity are fundamentally and ultimately equivalent and balanced in dreams. Instantaneity in dreams involves combining, balancing, and including larger and smaller space as the same space (i.e., as what is the experience of the middle distance in/of space). Dream experience involves visible and invisible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space. Dream experience is quantum gravity. Dreams involve balanced and middle strength inertial/gravitational/electromagnetic force/energy/feeling/touch. (Fundamentally, electromagnetism, gravity, and inertia involve balanced and equivalent attraction and repulsion in dreams.) Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites.

Nah, I think it is for the best that we do not fall into that trap once again. I hope that if we can just keep it civile and unattached that this thread will not more trouble.

Well, I think all of Franks threads have boiled down to self-destruction at this point. Since most of us here that have engaged in trying to understand Frank. By now know Frank well enough to understand that it is pretty pointless to read the posts he makes, because it cant be percieved as anything else then random fancy words. And there is probably impossible to have a discussion with Frank as well, since he normaly doesnt respond to anything at all. Even people who have enjoyed to make fun of Frank have lost their interest in his threads, because making fun of anything in this thread is simply to easy to make a good laugh from it.

It's kind of tragicomical in a way. It might be possible that Frank wants to see himself as some missunderstod genius, and that is okey if thats what he want to get out of all this. But I wouldn't buy into that, and I think the majority of people here see thru that too, if this happen to be the case. How ever I dont feel that Frank should be disrespected just because he express ideas that makes no sense to anyone, but merely let him keep expressing his ideas to himself since that seems to be his biggest interest. I also think that you give to much credit to Frank here Dthoughts. After all, It is you yourself that have tried to make some sense out of Franks ideas to the point that you might have glimpsed something of value from it in the end. And who knows, maybe Frank have some point in his ideas. But even if there are any point. Those points are way to farfetched to see in his way of expressing them, so that everyone have to make up their own points of his posts if one bothers take on that task.

This guy is a like a sentient broken record.

Dream experience is entirely consistent with the following great and fundamental truth in physics:

Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance (logically clearly, and fundamentally) in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. Middle distance, middle force/energy/feeling/touch, instantaneity in dreams.

The key is to balance being and experience as it is seen, felt, and touched.

Full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched. Visible space, full gravity, full distance in/of space.

You understand it now Dthoughts.

Great stuff indeed ! It is clearly correct.

In dreams, we are conscious and alive in conjunction with what is the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. It is obvious. The physics proves it, in fact.

I am the first person ever in history to prove and describe what dreams really and truly are (and must be). The truth is simple....now that I have explained it for you all.

by Author Frank Martin DiMeglio

Lets hear from gab and OpheliaBlue please. The facts are the facts. The truth is the truth. Are you still denying all of this? It is a lot to deny, especially because it all hangs together.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.

I am the world expert on what dreams fundamentally and really are. I have fundamentally unified physics for all time. I have proven quantum gravity....naturally, theoretically, and actually. I have proven the ultimate and fundamental equivalency and balancing of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism.

Author Frank Martin DiMeglio

I'd really love to see all those proofs.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

I'd really love to see all those proofs.

Ah, but he's been presenting those proofs all along; it's all been proven. Right Frank?

Originally Posted by FrankDiMeglio

I am the world expert on what dreams fundamentally and really are. I have fundamentally unified physics for all time. I have proven quantum gravity....naturally, theoretically, and actually. I have proven the ultimate and fundamental equivalency and balancing of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism.

That may be your best post ever, Frank; way to put it out there! I just can't believe that, in all my years in the Dreaming Industry, I never heard of you...my oversight, I guess!

There is no outsmarting the genius (that would be me as well) of dreams !!!!!!!! lol

Go spread the word !

FrankBot has clearly enhanced his troll abilities. Hit us with a "No on understands the true potential of the underdog's theory" and then swiftly mention "Just kidding, I'm the best, you all stink lol"

Lets hear from gab and OpheliaBlue please. The facts are the facts. The truth is the truth. Are you still denying all of this? It is a lot to deny, especially because it all hangs together.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.

As we continue to see, sadly, and all too often: immaturity, lack of personal growth, lack of true concern, lack of true seriousness, pettiness, clown, trifling, insincere, selfish, lack of development, lack of discipline, laziness, lack of will, lack of determination, lack of ability to advance the greater good, vindictiveness, stupidity, puppet, selfishness, fear, and cowardliness go together and are, unfortunately, in relative abundance.

Sorry, it's actually really hard to take you seriously when you use too many unnecessary words.